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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 01:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3255758788&category=42370

Roger's looks about right, but Freddie in 91?

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 02:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Looks pretty good to me, Id email Brian an ask him, Im sure hed remember signing a Wembley ticket...damn, I wish I had £500


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 03:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hard to say. I think on my site is a very similar Wembley ticket with fake signatures but this one looks better. Freddie's signature looks pretty good, the others look acceptable (not much nice but they used to sign in this strange way in the 1989-1991 period).

I wonder where and when in 1991 could the seller meet all four members and have a Wembley ticket with him.

If it wasn't for Freddie's signature, I'd say "a pretty good fake" but now I'm not sure at all, they could be genuine.

The price is silly anyway.

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 04:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it might have been signed for a fc competition or convention raffle, anyway it's quite unusual of Freddie putting the date under the signature(maybe a fake because seller knows that 1991 signed stuff is rarer?)
anyway, it looks good to me though I'm not 100% convinced....


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 04:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you can check this with jacky from the fanclub, but I'm also not 100% convinced. Seems weird that Freddie would sign an old ticket with a year beneath. Also, where could the owner of the ticket have met Freddie then in 1991?


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 05:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This may not help the discussion, but I remember seeing a Greatest Hits 2 promo box fully signed, before Freddie died (meaning I saw it before he died). I doubt anyone believes whoever has it, but that must be one of the last ones.

As to this ticket, I knew where and when the Breakthru vid was being filmed, I just didn't have time to go down there. Maybe someone local took a ticket along.
Maybe someone worked at the studio where Invisible Man was filmed and got the shock of their life one morning when Fred turns up in green sunglasses...

Who knows? I agree the price is a bit steep though.

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 05:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also, if you were going to fake Freddie's autograph, you wouldn't
a) put a year under it which he himself very rarely did
b) choose the year that he died
In this case, you'd choose 1986, or you'd stick a year after John's signature (which he did do a fair bit)

I think this one is real because of the year (also the year is in Fred's handwriting too)

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 05:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie did sign sometimes with the year beneath the signature and so did any of the remaining members.

I'm convinced from 75% that these are genuine. But we'll never know the truth I guess, I doubt Brian remembers what he signed like more than 10 years ago :)

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 07:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my opinion are fakes, reciently i obtained personally in Madrid some roger signatures and he signed very big, and the ticket from wembley is very small, and 4 signatures.........In the other hand if the signs are genuines for me are from different years, not at the same time.


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 07:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

size doesn't matter in this case :) I've already seen(and own) signatures on small mags or tickets


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 08:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger's and Brian's signatures indeed looked slightly different in late 80's, I don't know why. So Roger's sig from 2003 will look the same as his sig from 1992 or even 1986 but not the same as from 1989. It sounds strange but it really is like that. Same with Brian's. He always wrote this beautiful "B" but the signatures from late 80's are different.

I also thought the signatures are from diffent years (B+R+J from ~1989 and Freddie's from 1991) but look at them, they were done by the same pen.

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 09:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They seem to be genuine



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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 10:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Feel The Force, I used to have a signed Cross ticket that I personally witnessed Roger sign. Oddly enough it was quite a small signature. What could this mean? Maybe it was a fake Roger I met, or maybe he signs his name at a different size if he has more room to do so.

I'll leave it up to you.

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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Roger's and Brian's signatures indeed looked slightly different in late 80's, I don't know why. So Roger's sig from 2003 will look the same as his sig from 1992 or even 1986 but not the same as from 1989. It sounds strange but it really is like that. Same with Brian's. He always wrote this beautiful "B" but the signatures from late 80's are different."

maybe because in that year Brian broke his arm skating, rember? Might be?


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 12:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One word... WOW.


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 12:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oh , shit


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 17:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

100% fake


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Posted: 25 Nov 03, 19:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have some where a picture of RT autograph on a pair of womans panties, I know it is real, as the woman also send me pictures of her getting them autographed by him( no she was not wearing them at the time...sadly!)and it was during the Game tour, USA


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Posted: 26 Nov 03, 02:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow, that Flash one is friggin' hilarious!


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