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Posted: 01 Dec 03, 17:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When you buy the soundtrack, the T shirt, the programme, the mug, etc, are you bombarded with adverts for "proper" Queen product, in the same way that those of us buying "proper" product get the musical rammed down our throats..

"If you have enjoyed this Live At Wembley DVD, why not pay a king's ransom to hear the same songs mucked about with and linked by jokes of equal vintage?"

I had this thought today looking at the tasteful WWRY advert plastered on every Queen DVD...

ANother thought then occurred - if the musical is so good, surely word of mouth is sufficient and there is no need for what appears to be a desperate half price offer lasting over a year now? Or is anyone stupid enough to book during the week and NOT say "DVD offer" being justly fleeced for twice what they think they could legitimately charge?

OK, that last bit is just rude, but what about the first question. Shouldn't these people be buying GH1 every time they turn up?

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Posted: 01 Dec 03, 18:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 02 Dec 03, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed after buying the programme, T-shirt (never got round to wearing it), mug and WWRY dental floss I got thousands of leaflets saying 'buy Queen's Video Hits on DVD' and 'don't be a lemon get Video Hits 2 for half price'. I thought you must be mad to buy 'unofficial' musical merchandise not 'proper' musical product.

I bloody well went out and bought those DVDs for £8 each. How I laughed at those who paid over a tenner for this 'tagged on to the musical' Queen merchandise.




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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 05:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The half price offer is for matinee tickets only, and as anybody who goes to musicals, matiness are usually crap, cos the understudies get a chance and everyone is hungover from the night before. IMHO
Im probably wrong, but thats just my experience of them.


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 05:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If there's a niche for capitalisation, it will be exploited. You can't blame Queen for making money out of their own property, even if their tactics do seem crass.


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 06:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are no adverts for the musical on my DVDs. Maybe it's only on British products?


I do not want any google ads here.

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 07:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"There are no adverts for the musical on my DVDs. Maybe it's only on British products? "

Not even the 'subliminal' one on the Live @ Wembley DvD?

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I bought my DVDs in the US, nothing on them either.


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It probably is just UK editions which push the Uk musical at us.

But it's not matinees - Mon-Thu evening performances (there aren't any matinees at all are there?).

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which 'subliminal' one? I have't seen the WWRY logo anywhere on the DVD but perhaps I missed something?


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Which 'subliminal' one? I have't seen the WWRY logo anywhere on the DVD but perhaps I missed something? "

Brian being interviewed whilst sat at the piano.

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which 'subliminal' one? I have't seen the WWRY logo anywhere on the DVD but perhaps I missed something?


same here...I only see the queenonline logo.


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The musical is quite good actually, why do people slag it off when they havn't even seen it.
It's success speaks for itself...

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 08:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think he means the songbook sitting at the piano. hehehe

There's nothing wrong with their ads. Big deal, it's marketing and basic business. If you don't like it, fair enough. But others do.

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 09:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes I missed that, obviously :-) I admit I did not pay much attention the interviews.


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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 11:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"why do people slag it off when they havn't even seen it"

I think people don't criticize the musical itself, they (me included) criticize the extremely heavy advertising of it.

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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I haven't seen it at the theatre, however I watched about half of it on video at the convention and my original expectation that it was a cover band nailed to a plot was confirmed.

Except for the plot. I couldn't see one. I heard some old jokes, each of which had an entirely predicatble punchline.

So, I don't like it on grounds of
1. it's low level of entertainment
2. disproportionate amount of time, energy and promotion that is lavished upon it

Now, I understand some of you like it. Fair enough. Enjoy. Just don't ask me to, expect me to, or criticise me for not liking it.

Finally (you wish!), don't use the "millions of people have seen it, they can't all be wrong" line. Millions of people...

- voted for Hitler
- buy The Sun every day
- commit crime
- look at images of women being gratified by farm animals



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Posted: 03 Dec 03, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 05 Dec 03, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I saw the so called matinee in October on a tuesday night with the understudys i.e Tony Vincent Hannah Jane-Fox, etc and the understudy bloke on guitar for bo-rap what was his name oh yeah Brian May not a bad understudy but needs to play a bit more.. and the tickets cost me £20. 2nd time Ive been and its still fab.


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Posted: 05 Dec 03, 15:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder whether they are having the same discussions on the Abba, Rod Stewart & Madness boards?

For some people what ever happens in the name of Queen now will not live up to the glory days and that is fair enough. I went I clapped, I cryed and I had a bloody good nights entertainment enjoying the music of my favourite band - It was quite breathtaking. My kids who are far too young to have ever seen Queen really enjoyed it too so if its introducing the music to a whole new audience then that can't be too bad can it!


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