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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 12:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've got a few Queen shows on DVD-R that I'd like to have on audio cd as well, so could anyone recommend me some software to rip from DVD to wave? (Preferably for free download)... ;)


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 12:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lol i think you mean wav format?


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've heard that Smartripper does a good job. I've not used it myself, though I did find it online. I just haven't taken the time to figure out how to take the VOB files and convert them to wav.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 12:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The first step would be to rip the VOB files to the hard drive. After that you could extract the audio from those files and output it to MP3, AC3 or WAV.

The method I have in mind is:
1. Rip the VOB files to the hard drive using SmartRipper
2. Decode the VOB files and output them to a big WAV file(s), using DVD2AVI

If the DVD you're trying to rip is not divided into tracks (chapters) you'll also need to seperate the songs inside the big WAV.

Ripping the VOB files: http://www.doom9.org/sr.htm
Extracting the audio: http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvd2avi.htm

Note: You need at least 10 GBs for the VOBs and another gig for the WAV(s). You also HAVE to have a DVD-Rom drive or your PC won't be able to read the DVD.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 12:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

btw, WAV is the abbreviation of WAVE.
Those files are originally called WAVE files.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 13:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I use the following programs:

- Smart Ripper to rip the VOB file on the hard disk (it also allows you to select just the audio track).

- AC3 Decoder to decode the VOB file into WAV of MP3. It works very well.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 13:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I simply have a stereo lead which records the output of the speaker and returns it into the line input which is then recorded by CoolEdit Pro. This topic has been brought up before and I remember people saying it was very time consuming and took up alot of memory and that simply recording like this was probably faster and easier. However, things are probably faster now...


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As a matter of fact, they're much faster. I still remember the days when it took 12 hours or more to make a VCD out of a DVD.

The method you're suggesting, David, is like transfering a tape to a CD - you need to play the tape fully for it to be recorded. Today, it's possible to extract the data without having to play it at real time (it's played, but very fast and only internally), which saves time and allows you to use the PC for other purposes as well.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 13:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, it depends if it is a PCM or Dolby AC3 file you want to convert to wave.

If it is PCM, you should find a program called VOBrator (that is the name, seriously), which will demux DTS, Dolby, PCM and M2V streams (it will also make a WAV out of DTS, but I don't know how to use DTS WAV files)

Then open the PCM as a 48kHz 16 bit signed byte swapped file in Goldwave or any other program that will open byte swapped files.

If it is Dolby, use DVD2AVI and use the mixdown option.

Or if you're lucky to find an illegal free copy, get Sonic Foundry Dolby Digital encoder, open the 2.0 DD file and save it as a wave, and open the wave as a 48khz 16 bit signed wav file

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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 14:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, the newest version of DVD2AVI works for both PCM and Dolby. I tried it myself.


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The easiest method.

Smart Ripper - Enable stream processing, select the stream you wish to RIP.
This means basicly DE-SELECT the video files (VOB) and just leave the desired audio track selected (2Ch audio..).

Then perform DIRECT STREAM COPY. There's no reason to rip video if you just want the audiostream.

To downsample 48khz to 44.1, I recommend
R8brain (has a GUI) or SSRC (commandline utility). Both fast and produce
great results.

All the software used for this method is free. Type the names in google...


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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 18:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And if you're extracting the ac3 file or DTS, can you get the separate tracks? i.e. 5.1

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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 20:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IF you ment seperate channels ??
You can't get the seperate tracks with SmartRipper.

If you first extract a DTS stream, you'll get a dts wav file. If you want to separate that into 6 mono-waves you have to re-parse the stream with DTS Parser (freeware) and then use a commandline utility called AZIDTS (freeware) (with software dts decoder such as Intervideo Windvd Platinum installed, payware) to separate the dts file into 6 wav files .

You can still find this guide in
Google's cache. http://www.xs4all.nl/~appfan/DTSguide.htm

The 1st method on the guide is best ignored, skip to the faster one with AZIDTS and DTSPARSER.

For Dolby Digital, I think
the tool of choice was Besweet (never done DD just DTS though )

http://www.doom9.org/
and the Doom9 forums had all necessary guides and instructions about ripping DD and re-using streams.




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Posted: 31 Jan 04, 23:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks everyone for your help! No need to worry about DTS here, because the DVDs I'll be ripping from will be in stereo at best.


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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 04:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've tried many ways.
The easiest and the most immediate is the one David Jones said.
But if your gear cannot obtain an high audio quality, then you have to do it with some software, and the ones I said are the most easy and immediate. They are also easy to find free and the quality is great. Just search for Smart Ripper, AC3 Decoder and download them.

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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 05:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'll 3rd the nomination of recording real-time to the computer. This is how I'm forced to do it, since I don't have a DVD drive anyway :)

Just a word of warning if anyone chooses to do it this way.. please be mindfull of your audio level. I've heard so many recordings from vinyl and other sources which were so loud they distorted. You can always amplify later.. but de-amplifying causes 'clipping', which kills dynamic range. Thank you.


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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 05:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> The method you're suggesting, David, is like transfering a tape to a CD - you need to play the tape fully for it to be recorded. Today, it's possible to extract the data without having to play it at real time (it's played, but very fast and only internally), which saves time and allows you to use the PC for other purposes as well.

Yeah, I do alot of recording from tape, so the lead has its uses. I also use it for recording the guitar too. Will have to look into those new methods though! Cheers!



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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah the old days. Recording my guitar through the line-in of a sound card. Ah...
But since we have a PC, dvd should not be treated in the same way. It just defies(sp?) logic. If it's faster, fairly easy to do and sounds HUGELY better - why treat it like you're recording a tape!? And if you don't have a dvd-rom? Get one! It's so cheap now.

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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 10:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do have a DVD Rom now with my new computer - my old one didn't. Will have a good look at these programmes!


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Posted: 01 Feb 04, 14:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Adam, I have a question for you. What is your nationality/heritage?