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Posted: 08 Feb 04, 23:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why were these never included on any albumn? Does anyone know what these songs are about? I think they are great songs and the guitar work is Brians best tone ever.

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Posted: 08 Feb 04, 23:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I read somewhere (here, actually) that Brian and Freddie considered 'A Human Body' was too melodic for "The Game" and that 'Coming Soon' was supposed to be the B-side.

'Soul Brother' I think was just a throwaway jam that they pulled out for the B-side of 'Under Pressure' when Bowie didn't want their collaboration of 'Cool Cat' as the flip.

'A Human Body' is one of my favorite songs, much better than 'Coming Soon'.

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Posted: 08 Feb 04, 23:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It seems like as short of an albumn as the game is they could have easily put it on. To me melodic wouldn't be a bad thing.

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 10:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Non-album tracks used as b-sides increase single sales. But, just feel lucky they did release them on a single. If it weren't proper tracks for an album Queen might as well have NOT released them in any way.


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 10:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Doesn't Roger hate A Human Body?

At least that was the word going around when it didn't show up on the new DVD-A of The Game.


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 10:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard that too, except that rumor went way back to when The Game was initially reissued on US CD.

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 10:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian recently posted on his soapbox that 'Soul Brother' was a tune Freddie wrote about Brian. Listen to the mix, and it sounds like something from 'The Game' sessions, and not HS. imho, it would have been a dreadful track for an LP.

AHB needed a bit more 'polish'. Would have fit perfectly on Roger's FIS album.


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i love A human body & Soul Brother!!!!
i agree they are better than coming soon ;)

anyawy when they released THE GAME "coming soon" (maybe) was in the mood of the album


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 12:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger was so proud of 'A Human Body' and wanted it on the album instead of 'Coming Soon', but Fred and Brian argued that the album would be too melodic with AHB because they had already written three downbeat songs for the album (I guess they were Save Me, Play The Game and SASS).

I think the recordings of 'Soul Brother' are from The Game era instead of Hot Space era. I can't prove it though


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 12:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"I think the recordings of 'Soul Brother' are from The Game era instead of Hot Space era. I can't prove it though"

Impossible. The song makes reference to 'Under Pressure' amongst other songs so that of course had to come first.

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 12:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps 'Under Pressure' was just another line of the song, and later on they wrote a song with that title, like Dragon Attack and Back Chat


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Deacon Fan - Fat Bottomed Girls & Bicycle Race refer to each other - apply your logic to that, would you?

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 12:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Too bad A Human Body hasn't been released in digital quality yet. I don't even think I've seen a "CD Quality" version leaked yet.


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 13:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I figured there would be arguments over this. First of all, many sources can confirm the recording date, whatever it is, so there isn't an argument really. Why would everyone involved dream up a grand conspiricy to mislead folks as to when one little song was recorded? But anyway,

Yeah, you know what? You're exactly right! Soul Brother must be where they came up with the final title for 'Under Pressure' (originally it was "People On The Streets"). Thank God that mystery is solved!

One of the books I read recently, either Hutton's or Phoebe's, mentioned the writing of the song and most likely the date as well.. I recall Freddie telling Brian that it was written for him but Brian didn't take it too seriously since it had been written so quickly. This must have been in Phoebe's book, as Hutton wouldn't have been around back then and the Phoebe book I read is now back at the library. I'm sure someone else can find this passage.

P_G, I'm not sure what you mean about FBG & BR. They are obviously from the same sessions so I see nothing strange about the cross-referencing there.

Was 'Headlong' inspired by the line in 'Breakthru'? There are many examples like that. The entire 'Paradise Theatre' concept is said to be inspired by a line in 'Blue Collar Man'. Oh wait, that was STYX. I get them confused with Queen all the time :-P

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 13:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Soul Brother could have been recorded in 1979/1980 but not included in albums or singles until 1981. The ´Under Pressure´ line can easily be a coincidence and not neccesarily inspired the song, or inspired BY the song.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 15:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"The ´Under Pressure´ line can easily be a coincidence and not neccesarily inspired the song, or inspired BY the song".

That is very true, but all of the above miss one simple point - "Soul Brother" was actually an exercise in "how many Queen titles can we fit into one song?".

(Aside to the audience: "How many did you spot!")

Therefore, it was pointless to include the lyric "Under Pressure" OTHER than as a reference to a previously released track - or b-side!

For those still unconvinced - try the quiz below;

God bless my soul here he comes now
The man with the most how does he do it?
Sure he's got style he's so heavy
He's a trip can do anything
Anything anything
He's my soul brother

He's my best friend he's my champion
And he will rock you rock you rock you
Because he's the saviour of the universe
He can make you keep yourself alive
Make yourself alive
Oooh brother because he's somebody somebody
He can love
He's my soul brother

When you're under pressure feeling under pressure
Yeah pressure yeah pressure
He won't let you down
When you're under pressure
Oh feeling under pressure yeah pressure
So he won't let you down
My brother won't let you down
He won't he won't he won't let you down
He can do anything anything anything
He's my soul brother

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Oooh soul brother anything (soul brother)
Anything (soul brother) anything (soul brother)
He's my soul brother brother brother brother brother
Anything (soul brother) anything (soul brother) anything (soul brother)
He's my soul brother

Soul brother he can do anything
He can do anything
Because he's my soul brother


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was just gonna say exactly the same.




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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 19:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The reason that A Human Body is not on the DVD-A disc or in CD quality anywhere is the the master tape has been lost since the early 80's.

Until the tape is found - no CD quality version will ever be made (unless technology advances......)

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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 19:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From my recollection, "Under Pressure" came out 1 1/2 or 2 years before Hot Space (as a single and on the Greatest Hits 1981 album). It was chronologically closer to the release of The Game (and Flash Gordon) than Hot Space.


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Posted: 09 Feb 04, 19:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Correct Gb. The actual (UK) release dates were;

Flash (Single): 24 Nov 1980
Flash Gordon (OST LP): 8 Dec 1980
Under Pressure/Soul Brother: 26 October 1981
Greatest Hits: 2 November 1981
Hot Space: 21 May 1982

As for "A Human Body", I have a "perfect" digital CD copy taken directly from the "Complete Vision" LP. First, the mint condition LP was recorded onto DAT and from DAT digitally mastered onto CD. Because the run-in and outro "grove" has been excised - it means that the audible "snap, crackle and pop" of the disc has also been eliminated - giving the impression of "perfect" digital sound, without missing a beat of the music.

OK - I had an unplayed LP to start with - and the digital equipment to record and transfer - but surely I am not the only person who has been able to do this?


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