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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 03:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have wondered about this for a long time. Hope someone knows the answer.

Let's imagine that teams A and B play against each others in a cup final. This is the most important game of the season. Team B attacks and finally there is a situation where the ball is going towards the upper corner of teams A's goal. The keeper is lying on the ground and isn't able to do anything. There is though one defender standing right under where the ball is going. He jumps and tries to hit the ball with his head to avoid the goal, but fails of course. I guess everyone has seen situations like this.

So I ask, why doesn't the defender jump and take the ball into his hands? Of course team B would get a penalty shot, but it is a much better situation than a certain goal. What would be the consecvenses of such a save? Of course this would be against the spirit of fair sportmanship, but we all agree that much naughtier things are made in almost every game.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 04:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For a start, the defender will be sent off and be damned for all eternity (by the other teams fans, that is).


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 06:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The defender would be sent off, for sure-and probably banned for a good long time. BUT in the last minute of a cup final, they're more likely to miss a penalty than score it, especially if they're Michael Owen.

Statistically it's actually worth doing that in a football match, but only after 16 minutes of the game.

Basically, I think the defender would do it, and the other teams fans would hate him (unless they scored the penalty) and the home team's fans would at least respect what he was trying to do.

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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 08:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The defender would be sent off and his opponents would receive a penalty, the guilty defender would receive a one match ban.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 08:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is that all? I'm really surprised that this isn't done more often. After all lots of much worse things happen in sports, such as injuring your opponent and doping.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 08:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But, a one match also means the player will be fined 2 weeks wages, and possible losing his place in the team.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 09:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Besides the obvious red-carding, penalty, presumable ban of at least one match, and fine, there would most likely be a massive general stink caused.

The press would pillory the guy, and he would just be given severe amounts of abuse for being so un-sporting.

And if this was in a cup-final or something, and the resultant penalty was missed (let's assume Michael Owen, Dennis Bergkamp or Chris Waddle is taking it) the culprit's career would pretty much be over I reckon. The uproar would be unimaginable.

It just wouldn't be cricket.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 10:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always thought that they should have a rule that allowed the goal to stand if it was a dead cert to go in.


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Posted: 30 Apr 04, 11:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was reading this article where Joseph Blatter president of the FIFA wants to rule out all ties from football (soccer) and always have a winner and a loser in every game.
I think the idea is great, but what I don't agree with is to define who wins or who loses in a penalty shoot out, which I consider is more about luck than skill, talent and performance.

Blatter is famous for making bad decisions on the FIFA board. He's negligent about referee mistakes, and he once said that he wants the uniforms of female players to be more revealing so guys would show more interest in female football.


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Posted: 21 May 04, 18:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because there's always a chance that jumping and heading it will work.

No goal, no penalty.

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Posted: 22 May 04, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My friends you have a football referee on this board: me (i'm talking seriously!)

A part the fact that if the goalkeeper is injured someway the referee as soon as he notice it he MUST stop the game because a team can't play without the goalkeeper (he's the only one player that can't be helped from doctors while the game is going)

but the situation described is different so...

---> Well in a situation like this: red card and penalty.Disqualified for at least one match.(at least, but it's not the referee to judge it)
If Owen miss it...they should injury HIM!!!!!

the defender is not fair, but if he does it....
It's foul!
i would say it's better to take the ball with the hands than to kick one opponent leg and break it :)

i don't like Blatter ideas, too original!


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Posted: 23 May 04, 13:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ruud Van might miss too like he did against Arsenal.He scored though y'day.


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Posted: 03 Jul 10, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LOL! Just read about yesterday's soccer match and remembered this topic :D

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Posted: 04 Jul 10, 08:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Didn´t you know that?what is the national sport in Finland?hunting seals?


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Posted: 04 Jul 10, 14:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

:D Of course I knew that and that is exactly why I wondered and still wonder why this doesn't happen more often. Why don't you make fun of some of the naive replies I got back then instead?


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Posted: 04 Jul 10, 17:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Worth handling on the line and risking a penalty. But look at Henry against Ireland, everyone saw his handball and he even admitted it, his reputaion is permanently tarnished now.

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Posted: 04 Jul 10, 23:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whisperer wrote:

:D Of course I knew that and that is exactly why I wondered and still wonder why this doesn't happen more often.


It should not happen at all because this is cheating.

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Posted: 05 Jul 10, 09:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was wondering the same thing myself - if some of these serious (red card) fouls are pre-meditated.  I was surprised with what happened in the last Ghana game.