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Posted: 07 Jun 04, 16:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe I'm nuts, but I think this sounds so much better than previous masters. I actually like this song now and didn't really care for it before.


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Posted: 08 Jun 04, 11:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think you're right. Does sound better. I think all the pre-1982 2001 remaster albums sound good. Only the ones after that get called into question.

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Posted: 08 Jun 04, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow... this mp3 is incredible! What label are the remasters on? If they all sound this much better than the Hollywood remasters, then I'm going to buy the albums up to the Game! Or did they remaster Flash too?


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Posted: 08 Jun 04, 20:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They're Toshiba-EMI and only released in Japan, however they are supposedly due next month in the U.K. also.

They've been available since 2001 via regular packaging, but they were packaged in beautiful card sleeve mini-album replicas this year and this has brought newfound attention to them. And yep, they did Flash too. All 15 studio albums plus an alternate cover of MIH for a total of 16 card sleeves. Just no compilations or live stuff.. yet.

I absolutely love the things. They run about $30 each shipped from HMV Japan to the U.S. or you can pay slightly more from some place like Amazon or CD Universe. Not sure what the best Canadian source would be.

BTW, were you the one who once requested a pseudo-instrumental of something so you could hear the guitars better? I made one from this track just for fun and it worked out quite well. I think the guitar stuff is pretty well in-tact, vocals almost completely gone but it did take the bass out too, so I boosted it back up a bit. I'll post it if anyone is interested.

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Posted: 08 Jun 04, 20:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nevermind

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Posted: 09 Jun 04, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Itchy Drooler wrote:

BTW, were you the one who once requested a pseudo-instrumental of something so you could hear the guitars better?


Nope, that wasn't me... but thanx for the kind words about my BR. That was a fuuuuun 4 minutes. :)


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Posted: 09 Jun 04, 12:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

how did you create that FFTI (fake) instrumental?? it sounds very good!


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Posted: 09 Jun 04, 13:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's just the 'vocal cut' tool in Sound Forge. (under Process > Channel Converter) Other wav editors have it too, or you can do it manually by selecting one channel, inverting it, then combining both channels into mono.. sounds weird, but it works. It basically gives you the same frequencies you'd hear in the rear channel if you ran any stereo song through Pro-Logic.

When I use the tool, it actually keeps the sound isolated to the rear channel (I monitor thru my reciever in Pro-Logic) so I generally offset one channel a little to make it pseudo-stereo.

Not every song will come out so good.. it just depends on what the song has in it to start and how it was mixed. There's some Beatles tracks that do very interesting things with this effect..

Here's a Beatles page that explains the effect, how to do it, and suggests some songs:

http://www.beatletracks.com/btoops.html

So I generally try it out whenever I'm working on a file just to see if it does anything interesting. It usually takes out more than just vocals, but sometimes it doesn't even do that.

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Posted: 10 Jun 04, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BLOODY HELL! You almost blew my speakers with that little bass enhancement. Not kidding...

If you want to enhance the bass, only use eq for subtle boosting. If it's not enough, use a proper tool like Waves MAXXbass or a hardware unit like Aphex's Big Bottom(!). And even then, don't overdo it.

You've boosted a huge amount of rubbish in the middle of the sound as well as the bassy-er areas. Don't go above 200Hz with eq.

I think there's a proper instrumental of this song on Queen-The eYe's first disc. I lost that disc and it's killing me right now. So, if anyone has it, please think to upload that track.
http://www.queenpicturehall.com/theeye/01arena.shtml

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Posted: 10 Jun 04, 16:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I once made a double cd with all the tracks from The Eye. I'm uploading the track right now.
(btw very clever to think of that one!)


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Posted: 11 Jun 04, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've just tried the Process > Channel Converter > Vocal cut in Sound Forge 6, on Fight From The Inside - it sounds horrendous !! What else do I need to do ?


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Posted: 11 Jun 04, 15:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, you could try boosting the bass as much as you can stand it.. then post a link and let's see if we can achieve my original goal of blowing Adam's speakers.

Really, all I did after that was select one channel and then offset it.. under 'Effects > Delay/Echo > 'Simple' > Pseudo-Stereo' and then the bass boost. I use version 6.0 BTW. There's probably newer and better versions of Sound Forge, but I like to hang on to stuff that works good which I'm used to :)

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Posted: 11 Jun 04, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I forgot, I did use the 'master for 16 bit' (Effects > Wave Hammer) thing as a final step to apply some compression, because I started with the 2001 remaster which is quite loud and when vocally cut it was clipping.

An older master of the song probably won't sound quite as good.. the difference in quality was so good it prompted me to make the original post here.