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Posted: 11 Jul 04, 21:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I watched the Magic Years on laserdisc last night, and Champions of the World today. It seems to me DoRo fooled a lot of people with the latter.
Though Champions goes to 1995's Made In Heaven, it was basically a heavily edited version of Magic Years, glossed over with some new graphics and a little different footage (not much).
Would they, not Brian and Roger, be the ones to decide to finally release Magic Years on DVD? Champions is all right but Magic Years (timeline to 1986) is much better in content and continuity.
What does everyone think about this? Do you think DoRo raised false hope in 1995 with release of Champions? (Remember, DVD was only available in Japan then.)

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Posted: 11 Jul 04, 23:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought that COTW was pretty poor. Yeah, instead of a magic years mish mosh n some new stuff, maybe it should have continued, but on the other hand, there probably wasnt enough new viual material to make up the length of the Video, so they hadnt much choice. During the 'Mother Love' rewind through the years, half of the years are wrong!! Simple things like that can sometimes make stuff look 'Thrown Together'


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Posted: 11 Jul 04, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 00:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they're both bad. I think there isn't any really good Queen documentary.


Beatles fans had a great documentary spread over 5 dvds. Why can't we have something like that!
If we ever get a new documentary we'll get the stuff we've already seen on Magic Years. While there's so much archive stuff, like the Smile recordings or appearances on tv or when they received an award. Sometimes it just sucks to be a Queen fan :(


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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 11:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the greatest gaffe was the interview with John Deacon, mislabelled as 1973 when it was clearly 1978!! And the "backwards years" are a real laugh. DoRo probably didn't mean to be so careless but it was noticed.
At least the VH-1 Legends was correct.

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Beatles Anthology came out in 1995, 31 years after The Beatles invaded America. (It had been set for 1994 but things didn't quite work out!)
I love the Anthology set also. Brian and Roger should get someone other than the DoRo team and seriously think about doing a similar project and call it Queen Anthology (just to grab peoples' attention, not copying the Beatles' idea).
I'm thankful George was still alive and well then; if there had been a longer wait there probably wouldn't have been a Free As A Bird or Real Love!
Think if Brian and Roger DID go ahead and do it and get major people involved with the project. It could take years but at least there would be one, definitive thing that future fans could reference. The Beatles experienced new popularity as a result of Anthology; newer generations discovered them and learned everything from the beginning. That's the way it should be with Queen!

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 14:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lisa J Goodrich wrote:

Beatles Anthology came out in 1995, 31 years after The Beatles invaded America. (It had been set for 1994 but things didn't quite work out!)
I love the Anthology set also. Brian and Roger should get someone other than the DoRo team and seriously think about doing a similar project and call it Queen Anthology (just to grab peoples' attention, not copying the Beatles' idea).
I'm thankful George was still alive and well then; if there had been a longer wait there probably wouldn't have been a Free As A Bird or Real Love!
Think if Brian and Roger DID go ahead and do it and get major people involved with the project. It could take years but at least there would be one, definitive thing that future fans could reference. The Beatles experienced new popularity as a result of Anthology; newer generations discovered them and learned everything from the beginning. That's the way it should be with Queen!


I believe I read at BrianMay.com something about the Queen box sets. The FM Solo collection also sais the box sets will come...


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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But WHEN?? Tha's the eternal question!! :-))

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

According to Greg Brooks' answers to the FAQs on queenonline, we should've had the first box set in 2003. And then it was 2004. And now, who knows.


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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 17:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I predict: 2010!! (LOL)

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 18:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I had honestly had the impression a box set would be released in the mid to late 90's. Still waiting.


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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 18:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I watched both of these today via digital video masters I received from Queen Productions (they've remastered and restored all of the film bits.. looks stunning!) and I'd have to say that overall I enjoy them both. This new version of COTW is about 28 minutes longer and has a segment of Richards playing some of Freddie's last vocals on their own, which is amazing. It's much like the Bo Rhap thing on GVH1.

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 19:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Would you be able to upload some of the Dave Richards tape sessions?

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 19:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I could do the audio, but I'd be betraying trust that was placed in me. Don't have video capturing ability.

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 19:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just wondering, could you provide technical information about this digital medium that contains the extended versions? Like, format, etc.?

And why did you get a copy? And how?

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 22:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They're on D-VHS, which is still a relatively new format. I'm doing some work which I can't really talk about, but I am borrowing some rather expensive equipment including a JVC D-Theater deck which plays these.

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Posted: 12 Jul 04, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

don't get me wrong i like the magic yrs but I prefer champions of the world!!!!


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