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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasn't she invited or was she unable to attend?
Considering they had some right dummies singing Freddie's songs (Paul young, zucherro etc)it would have been fitting to have a real diva and someone who Freddie had complete admiration for, sing at his tribute concert.

Was an official explanation given regarding her absence?

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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 16:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because it was a rock concert and she had previous commitments.

Lisa Minnelli was the only exception because she needed the publicity!


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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because Wembley had a capacity of only 72,000.

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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lol Fatty.

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it's Liza with a Z, not Lisa with an S.

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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 22:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Would have loved to see Caballe there as Freddie loved and admired her so very much.


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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 22:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Same with Aretha Franklin. Freddie loved both, but they must have not been asked, probably since it was comprised mostly of rock musicians.


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Posted: 24 Jul 04, 23:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I`ve always felt that it was actually a tribute to Brian. Many artists - Def Leppard, Zucchero, Tony Iommi - were friends of Brian, not Freddie. And there were more Brian`s songs than Freddie`s in the setlist - IWIA, HTF, TMLWKL, 39, LPDA, WWTLF, TSMGO, TYMD, WWRY, NIH.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 00:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

for obvious reasons...the concert was a rock show....not an opera. She wouldn't have fitted in with the crowd.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 03:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

I`ve always felt that it was actually a tribute to Brian. Many artists - Def Leppard, Zucchero, Tony Iommi - were friends of Brian, not Freddie. And there were more Brian`s songs than Freddie`s in the setlist - IWIA, HTF, TMLWKL, 39, LPDA, WWTLF, TSMGO, TYMD, WWRY, NIH.


I agree. And where were all the real stars such as The Stones, the members of The Beatles, Sting, Phil Collins and other famous bands and singers?


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 03:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LoL Sebastian!!


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 08:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

I`ve always felt that it was actually a tribute to Brian. Many artists - Def Leppard, Zucchero, Tony Iommi - were friends of Brian, not Freddie. And there were more Brian`s songs than Freddie`s in the setlist - IWIA, HTF, TMLWKL, 39, LPDA, WWTLF, TSMGO, TYMD, WWRY, NIH.


There may have been more Brian's songs, but it was a tribute to FREDDIE singing QUEEN'S songs. And of course the remaining band members asked people who were their friends to be there...but all who performed said they were influenced by Queen..I don't imagine the Beatles or the Stones considered themselves influenced by Queen's music, although they have said they admired it. Also, Liza was a favorite of Freddie's and Elton John one of his close friends. And Brian stated TMLWKY was "all he had to offer"...I took that as a rather heartfelt tribute to Freddie at that moment in time.


...and there you have it.
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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 09:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If it was a tribute to Fred it should have had more Freddie`s songs, same if it was a tribute to Queen because Fred was the major songwriter.

Yes Liza was a fair choice, Elton and David too, and George Michael (Fred in 1985 said he liked his work), and Ian Hunter, Roger Daltrey, and for some extent Annie Lennox, and of course Robert Plant (his favourite singer, at least in middle 70s). But what about the other half of the artists? The guys from Def Leppard, for instance, were more for a Brian tribute than for a Fred one. Same as Zucchero, Guns, Metallica, Tony Iommi. I don`t know what did Lisa Stansfield, Seal and Paul Young had to do with Fred anyway.

I think they commercialised it too much putting Metallica and Guns. surely they`re great (and I love GnR way way way more than Queen), but the thing is: did they really belong to a tribute to Freddie? or were they invited because they two were the most famous bands of the moment and Brian & co just wanted more coverage (similar to the 5ive, Robbie, Britney, Pink & Beyonce cases)?


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 10:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a real shame she couldn't have been there. Of course, there would have been no Freddie to sing with, though she could have used a tape and added her vocal (perhaps?) but she would have been a welcome presence. Maybe it was difficult for her to be there or maybe it was prior commitments...but still it would have been very fitting if she were there!

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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Montserrat Caballe was indeed asked to take part at the 'Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert'.

She said in an interview that Brian May asked her to perform, but she was already busy because at the time she was already too involved on other events like Barcelona 92 and Expo Sevilla.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 11:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


I think they commercialised it too much putting Metallica and Guns. surely they`re great (and I love GnR way way way more than Queen), but the thing is: did they really belong to a tribute to Freddie? or were they invited because they two were the most famous bands of the moment and Brian & co just wanted more coverage (similar to the 5ive, Robbie, Britney, Pink & Beyonce cases)?


Both Metallica and Guns N'Roses have many times expressed to be highly influenced by Queen. Especially Axl, who has Freddie and Elton as his all time heroes.
Perhaps the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert looked a little commercialised at a time when Metallica, Guns N' Roses, and perhaps Def Leppard too were at the peak of their careers. But it sure wouldn't have been the same without them. I just know that they didn't give their time and effort just to be nice, or get publicity. All of them were in some way or another influenced by Queen and they wanted to pay their respects to Freddie.

As for Britney, Pink, and Beyonce... I highly doubt that they could mention the name of one Queen song other than Bohemian Rhapsody, We Will Rock You, or We Are The Champions.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Axl did mention his favourite albums ever were Nevermind The Bollocks and Queen II. He also mentioned (before Fred died) that when the guys met Brian they almost "kidnapped" him and didn`t let him out of the room. Anyway, the band isn`t a major infuence for the rest of GnR (or if they are, they`re in a lower level, below Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones...). I guess, as PD once pointed somewhere, that they all "had to" emphatize their admiration for Queen when they appeared in the tribute.

Same as Joe Elliot, surely he liked the band, but I guess he was more into David Bowie or Mott The Hopple. Still he said Queen were "the biggest band that has ever been", but he was in front of 70 thousand Queen fans, he couldn`t say something different.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 12:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"As for Britney, Pink, and Beyonce... I highly doubt that they could mention the name of one Queen song other than Bohemian Rhapsody, We Will Rock You, or We Are The Champions."


I wouldn't have even been able to do that much a month and a half ago.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 12:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just because one artist seems to like or be influenced more than another doesn't mean that it should be ruled out that they don't respect them in the same kind of way.

I know Joe Elliot is a David Bowie freak, but he has said that second to Bowie is Queen. So I don't think he just called Queen "The Biggest Band That Ever existed" out of sympathy.
As for Axl he was the most Queen influenced member in Guns N' Roses. Slash and other members for once were more into The Rolling Stones or Les Zeppelin, but still respected and admired Queen.


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 13:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You`re right. Still, what I mean is that I feel the tribute was, by one side, so commercial (with Seal and other "artists of the moment"), and by other side so Brianish, in both act and song selection.

In an Argentinean forum there`s the same discussion right now, many point out that since the concert was for Queen fans, they shouldn`t have been shy about playing Queen II tracks instead of `Radio Ga Ga` or `I Want To Break Free`.

I personally both agree and disagree with that. I don`t think a concert is "cool" only if they do the most obscure tracks possible, but a concert can be great with more stuff than the middle/late 80s hits. I mean, I don`t think `Melancholy Blues`, `Hangman` or `I Guess We`re Falling Out` would be appropiate for a stadium gig, but I think that, for example, `Play The Game`, `Don`t Stop Me`, `In The Lap Of The Gods ... Revisited` and `Seven Seas Of Rhye` could have been included instead of some Brian`s songs, and then it`d be an actual tribute to Fred. The difficult part is... who could sing those tracks?


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Posted: 25 Jul 04, 13:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> It featured those Freddie-songs that were most prominent in their live-sets.

Magic Tour (in the standard setlist) had 8 songs from Fred, 7 1/2 from Brian (not counting Brighton Rock), so Fred`s songs were more prominent. I agree it`d be pointless to play "Fairy Feller`s Master Stroke" or "Man On The Prowl". For the same effect, "Las Palabras De Amor" didn`t have to be there imo.

> And don't you think that the songs were also chosen by their performers, who needed stuff they actually were both able and willing to perform ?

You`re totally right, but I don`t agree with many of the performer selection in the first place. Seal for example. `Radio Ga Ga` was fair to be included, but imo it should have been sung by Roger, who wrote the song, sang better than Paul, and he did count between Freddie`s friends

>Brian doesn't snap his fingers and the Beatles appear to play March Of The Black Queen.

I don`t mean that. But, for example, they could have deleted Stansfield and the others and give one more song to the people that deserved to be there (Bowie and the others), if they couldn`t find more people. Giving Mike Moran a piano solo would be fair too.

> It was supposed to be the biggest send-off in history. You can't do it without publicity. Why do you think it got 1 billion viewers. Because it had stars to offer. Freddie always wanted it big. He got it big.

I don`t mean they had too put Phoebe and Jim Hutton singing just because they were closer to Fred than James Hetfield. But they could offer more (or mostly) the stars that actually had something to do with Fred. Tony Iommi appeared everywhere. Just one song for Ian Hunter... Mick Ronson`s tribute is more balanced imo


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