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Posted: 31 Jul 04, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ive not seen an awful lot of em so id like to hear others opinions. Lots of people dont like wembley but since i love it, i cant see why.


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Posted: 31 Jul 04, 21:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I really can't imagine there being a bad Queen show, even if the band made a mistake or Freddie forgot the words to a song. If you were their thats the kind of thing that makes that particular show unique.
However having said that, I did see Bowie in concert in Sunderland and he was dire.

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Posted: 01 Aug 04, 00:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Prolly their first Suncity gig where Freddie's voice fell out in "Under Pressure" and he went running in tears off stage.


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Posted: 01 Aug 04, 01:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A few contenders:

Hyde Park 9-18-76. They were nervous as hell, and it particularly showed in Brian and his playing.

Sapporo 5-6-79, and the few shows before it. After singing pretty much for the past 6 months, Freddie's voice was almost completely chewed. I can't believe he actually somehow pulled these shows off.

Puebla 10-16-81 and 10-17-81. Stuff was constantly being thrown at the band. Brian said this was one of their worst experiences, and the band vowed never to return to Mexico.

Tokyo 11-3-82. I can't believe that of all concerts, this one was released on video. The band were clearly tired of touring, and so their complete lack of enthusiasm pours out of the TV screen. This same vibe comes out of all of the Japan 82 shows.

And the first Sun City 84 gig sounds like one as well. Freddie did indeed lose his voice worse than ever at that show.

Interesting how the '73 shows were brought up. Learning from Mott The Hoople was certainly not a bad thing. The feeling of being an up and coming band and feeling closer and closer to stardom surely was enough to keep Queen going in those days!

I'd like to pick on some more Hot Space and Works shows, but I'm sure I've caused enough damage to Stepfordhood by not saying Queen were perfect. But if anyone wants to hear more, just say so, and I'll see what I can come up with.

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Posted: 01 Aug 04, 07:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd love to hear more GH, always god to learn about whihc gigs are worth a listen ;)

Although in all seriousness I find that sort of thing interesting and if you've got the time to give those of us who do give a flying continental more info than by all means go for your life!


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Posted: 01 Aug 04, 11:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i've yet to see or hear anything from puebla - anywhere to obtain the audio from it or purchase a copy if available?

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Posted: 01 Aug 04, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GH, I absolutely want to hear more. Queen weren't perfect but then again, was any other band perfect? :)


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 01:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rhapsody__87 wrote:

GH, I absolutely want to hear more. Queen weren't perfect but then again, was any other band perfect? :)


Not that I can recall! Alright, let's see... some other questionable Queen concerts...

Toronto 82. Queen's popularity was slowly dying away, as does just about everything in pop culture on this side of the pond. I've heard from several people who attended the show that the audience was pretty subdued until BoRhap. And then when Brian went into TYMD, everyone ran toward the stage... but the excitement didn't last for too long, as the show was over within 15 minutes. The general message from these folks was that the audience was disappointed because Queen didn't play enough old songs. Come to think of it, aside from 6 or 7 songs at each US/Canadian 82 show, everything in the set was from The Game and Hot Space.

However, I've talked to people who attended the New York concerts, and they said they were incredible... and they had pretty much the same setlists. Perhaps it was the overall atmosphere leading to these very positive comments. I'm almost completely convinced that Freddie was high on coke on the second night. He could barely put a sentence together, let alone, without feeling the need to constantly swear.

From a US perspective: I see Queen as being a rock band up to the Jazz tour. Then they became a pop band after they put out The Game. Their audience had largely become fans of their new singles who just came to hear those songs. And the bootlegs totally show it. There are loud cheers only when the hits are being played. That's the difference between US and European audiences, and that goes for most bands. Fans here are generally at the shows to hear the hits, and then there are a few hardcores. I would have loved to be in any Queen audience in Holland. Those were real Queen fans.

Sorry, but I don't really have any more "bad concert" stories, because there really weren't that many bad shows! But any time, if anyone would have a question about Queen concerts, you can come to me.

Perhaps now would be a good time to proudly announce that I'll be contributing largely to Greg Brooks' revised Queen Live book. :) I'm glad to be a part of it.


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One I saw in Pennsylvania in 1979, Brian broke a string and walked off briefly cursing to himself. He came back to the stage still pretty miffed. As a result BoRhap's first guitar riff was mucked up but the second riff was better.

After the show he was not around for any autographs, my friend was surprised.

I heard on the second night's show which I did not attend he was very apologetic, typical Brian.

The video We Will Rock You the audience was on Nyquil or drunk as a result their show was dampened by them. No reaction whatsoever to anything FM said, he gets a little PO'd with them and says "Come on you f*ckers!"

Anyone who owns the video knows what I mean.

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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Krizzy wrote:


The video We Will Rock You the audience was on Nyquil or drunk as a result their show was dampened by them. No reaction whatsoever to anything FM said, he gets a little PO'd with them and says "Come on you f*ckers!"

Anyone who owns the video knows what I mean.

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I own the DVD of the concert in Montreal (I assume that's what you are talking about) and so I had never seen any other live Queen performance. Since then I've gotten the Wembley 2-disc set and wow, that audience knew what they were looking at! But even before I saw Wembley I knew that there was something wrong with the Montreal audience. Poor Brian was like "We're gonna need some help on this one. This is Love of My Life." And they didn't know it! I was so sad. But the "C'mon you fuckers!" made me laugh so hard! I was like "Yeah, Fred! You tell 'em!"


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 16:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All Queen gigs were superb... Your question should be like that "Which is Queen BEST gig in your opinion"

Yeah, thats right!!!

And something else: I am sure u would give your life, or something like that just to have the opportunity to attend even the "worst" (bad word for Queen) gig. Sure about that :P

Freddie, u rule


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The absolute worse...

THE MONTREUX FESTIVAL GIGS
There's nothing more sad than seeing a legendary band like Queen lipsynching like a crappy fabricated pop act.
Yet again, it wasn't their fault. They were probably forced to lipsynch, and you can tell that they weren't too happy about it.


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 16:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, i forgot about that :(. But i think that if they would play live in Montreux they were brilliant. Most of their songs are better in live version, dont u think?


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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 19:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen concerts were the best concerts. Their concerts weren´t bad. Some were better then the others. In the beginning htey hadn´t the sources as the Magic Tour. But they were good, cause they give their best.

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Posted: 02 Aug 04, 19:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the hammersmith 75 concert is very overrated


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 06:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hyde Park, by far the worst gig in queen's history... IMO, of course...



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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 10:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WarQueen wrote:

All Queen gigs were superb... Your question should be like that "Which is Queen BEST gig in your opinion"

Yeah, thats right!!!

And something else: I am sure u would give your life, or something like that just to have the opportunity to attend even the "worst" (bad word for Queen) gig. Sure about that :P

Freddie, u rule


Yeah, sorry to not be a stepford :S


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This thread would better not be taken over by the stepfords! I was going to mention Montreal 81, but I didn't want to hurt their feelings. But definitely, in terms of audience atmosphere, these were two of their worst shows ever. The only thing salvaging Montreal 81 was the fact that Fred's voice was in great shape, since these were just two concerts alone. But Brian and Roger were playing almost completely uninspired all the way through.

If only the official '81 document was a compilation of the South American concerts...


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 03:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think, based on what I've read, that (edited) Ireland '86 was definitely one of their worst shows. Fights broke out in the audience, which led Freddie to say something like "stop all the fighting", and Brian fell on a beer bottle (or got hit by a beer bottle, I don't know), and he was extremely pissed off. Not to mention the sound equipment failed a few times, if I remember correctly. Audio bootlegs should serve to confirm what I've said (and I think Mr. Scully has this concert on CD - maybe he could torrent it for us...?)

IMO the worst gig I've heard was Amsterdam 2002. Brian was literally shouting during NOBY, which disappointed me.

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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 03:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It surprises me that nobody has mentioned the Rock In Rio show... I'm talking about the second gig on 19th of January (1985). They sound so dull and exhausted, more like four individuals rather than a band. No matter how hard I try, I just don't like this one. Strange, as the first show (12th January) is a good one (in my opinion).
And of course, the show on May the 6th 1979 in Sapporo. Not sure though if Queen were to blame for this as they were at the end of an exhausting tour (Jazz tour). While with the Rio gig they hadn't performed in two months, so no excuse here.

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