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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 14:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I read that Led Zepplin had not allowed Sir Bob to use thier performance for the dvd. Very dissapointing. I'd have thought thet everybody involved would want to try and raise as much money as possible for Africa. It says that it was because Led Zepplin had a poor performance cos Phil Collins was jetlagged! C'mon. Well, I for one will buy the DVD not just because Queen are on it, because we can help raise the money. And I want to watch the whole gig because I was only 7 years old and although I remember it being on the TV, my attention span wasnst as long as it is now! And it would be great to compare how Queen did against everybody else???? Were they really THAT much better than everybody else?


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That is a shame... I wasn't even born when it happened (well, I was very nearly!) so it should be great to see most of the other artists for the first time!...


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 16:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's too bad. I was hoping to see the entire concert as it actually happened.


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 20:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT.


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 20:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I watched the whole show live all day when I was 16. I waited a long time for my favorite band Queen. They indeed did steal the show as I recall. Only U2 even came close. Being from Canada it seemed as if they had disappeared for awhile but the live aid set proved they rocked! Sadly the live comeback was short lived.


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 23:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT.
Just another reason I don't like Led Zeplin. ;)


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Posted: 03 Aug 04, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That is a downer! I remember the show. I too havent seen Queen entire performance. Mainly cause Mtv and ABC cut them short. I saw Zep's set. Its far from perfect. Jimmy is was out of tune on Rock & Roll. Roberts voice is less than great. He sounded like he needed to clear his throat. Whole Lotta Love is better. But Collins screws up the drums in the solo, badly! He sucks! I never liked him. I never understood why they needed two drummers. Tony Thompson is awesome, he could have handled it alone. Stairway was OK. Jimmy played well. But Robert came in at the end of the solo a few bars too early. Jonesy was the best one. He came in more than prepared for the gig. I guess more than 90 min. of rehersal would have helped a bit more. So I can understand if they dont want to be included but at the same moment, its 19 yrs ago. (god i'm old), get past your egos and let the fans have it. Live Led Zeppelin is like sex, even when it wasn't great, it was still pretty good!


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 01:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The good Dan. ;) wrote:

rhapsody__87 wrote:

I'm EXTREMELY letdown because of that. I never saw the whole concert as I was born in 1987 and even then I never saw all of Queen's performance. I would love to see Zep's performance. Elitist pricks. Can't raise money because their performance wasn't up to par with their DVD? BullSHIT.
Just another reason I don't like Led Zeplin. ;)


Jimmy Page is a perfectionist. I don't blame him for not wanting this performance released, as he'd probably have ZERO control over how it looks/sounds in the end. Live Aid was a pretty poor performance, for the reasons said above. I'm with Jimmy on this one.

If anyone wants to see it, then track down a bootleg. It's not hard to find one.


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 03:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remember that day quite vividly, and Led Zep's performance had many low points (expecially Rock and roll). But there were other artists having bad performances, ad Duran Duran for example, and even Bowie set is not that exciting


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 04:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey,

but that's not only the question whether it was good or not. Sometimes it is a question of recalling it to your mind. Or just you want to get to know how it was (I was 4 at the time...). I saw Queen's performance, I heard the story behind it. But saw nothing but that. And Live Aid is a 'bible' concert for every music lover. And how do I get to know? Have I to look for a bootleg? And then... they (musicians, their managers and so on) write they gonna chase those searching for boots. Then why? If they did give such performance why am I not allowed to watch it? I have to see it first to tell whether they did well or not.

Brian also likes to better some parts. And for me that's a bit strange. Because if he thinks listener is going to critisise him all the time for the performance then he doesn't believe in people's love to his music. We have to take it generally, whether he's good or not. Everybody can have a worse day. And hiding that from public, saying I didn't play like that is lying.

Because if you disuss this here it means you know Led Zeps took part. And then you get a dvd and you wonder why lack of Led Zeps. And then you well know why they aren't there. They were too poor! And by that you show EVERYONE they did bad at the concert. And if they were put on the dvd maybe it wasn't that obvious they did bad and maybe they kept their faces :)


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 04:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would skip 85% of Live Aid myself - a lot of it is complete and utter piffle, good job it was for charity otherwise I'm sure a lot of people would have demanded their money back.

Other low points include The Who, Bob Dylan, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood.

In fact apart from the Queen performance and Neil Young I'm struggling to remember anything worth buying, and so I wouldn't spend £15 on the Live Aid video, let alone £30.


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I remember that day quite vividly, and Led Zep's performance had many low points (expecially Rock and roll). But there were other artists having bad performances, ad Duran Duran for example, and even Bowie set is not that exciting


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 04:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's right. I'm a big Bowie fan but was astonished to read that they (the producers of the dvd) called his performance a highlight. To be honest: it's one of the worst performances by Bowie I ever heard. But that's maybe also because I hate his stuff from the 80's and the sound he had live in those days.

Zepp then? Also a big big fan. I have the entire show on video and I do understand why they preferred to keep the show off the dvd. I also feel it as a disgrace. The show just was very very bad! Not 'not that good', just simply awfull. A lot went wrong, also technically, I'm sure it was not just because of Phil Collins' jetlag. Indeed both Page and Plant were on their worst on that day. True, it would have been appropriate in a lot of ways to include their performance anyway, but I do understand why they won't give permission...

And of course I would have liked it to have it on video anyway.

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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 04:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise.

I still think they should the performance though, as people will seek out the bootlegs that contain the whole performance. You know you all would if a official release contained only part of a Queen show when you could get the whole thing from a TV sourced boot.

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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 06:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Remember that Robert Plant refused to have Innuendo included in the FM Tribute vhs/dvd, so this is history repeating


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is it going to be the entire day, or just selected performances?


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great. I was hoping that it would be.


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 16:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At least one part of the DVD (sound wise) has been re-recorded as Paul McCartney has gone into the studio to redo his vocals for Let It Be - the song used for the finale of the UK concert. In the original broadcast his mic cut out during the song.

I personally think they should leave it as is (the whole concert that is).

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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 18:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So OK... sure Phil Collins is not Bonham, yet I've seen clips of the performance which although not as good as expected, yet it wasn't absolutely awful. Everyone has their own opinion.

The importance of this Live Aid DVD set is that this is for charity. Hunger in Africa is still far from over, so each performance (especially from a legendary band like Led Zeppelin counts). We know for sure that lots of Led Zep fans won't buy the Live Aid DVD if their performance is not inlcluded.

What I don't understand is why Led Zep wouldn't allow their peformance to be included, but yet Jimmy Page doesn't mind allowing Sean Puffy Combs to take a classic song like 'Kashmir' and totally rip it apart by making an awful rap version of it.


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 19:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is a similar sad outcome to the freddie pre concert performances. they werent allowed to include those on freddies dvd either. copywrite sometimes makes me really really sad.


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Posted: 04 Aug 04, 19:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Darren Robins wrote:

Led Zep are now donating a part of the royalties from their upcoming 'Unleaded' DVD to the Live Aid trust as a respectful comprimise.


What's your source?

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I read in an official publication that the concert will be released FULL and UNEDITED, so I think this is just gossip.


What's your source?


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