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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 17:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From Brian's site:

**Thu 04 Aug 04**
US MILTON KEYNES CD AND DVD

Hollywood Records have announced both a CD and DVD of the Milton Keynes Concert 1982 are provisionally expected to be released on November 2nd in the USA - the DVD "On Fire At The Bowl" and CD is titled "Command Performance Milton Keynes 1982".



Not too shabby! :D


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 17:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OMG - they just took the bootleg-cd title? :D

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 17:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good news for U.S. fans - I wonder if they'll release the live CD in the UK or Europe?

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 19:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not too hot on technology but...why would anyone want to buy the cd and the dvd? If you buy just the dvd, isn't it easy to burn the audio from it onto a cd-r?

...and if so how do you do it? :p


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 19:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well you have to have DVD ripping software, choose the audio tracks you want (and hope the software has an option to not spend time ripping the video as well), etc. Then you'd have to split the file in half so it would fit on 2 CDs. It's not too hard but it's a little time consuming so personally I'd just buy the CD instead.

Sometimes I've noticed the CDs for concert videos are mixed slightly differently too....


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 21:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.riphelp.com/articles/dvdripping.html

I have it on good authority that the above website gives advice and links on ripping audio and converting it for CD-R use.

And again, based on this same good authority, I'm not totally convinced that the audio ripped from a DVD then burned on a CD-R sounds as good as the original CD might. To me, it sounds softer and not as sharp.


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 21:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, usually I just stick an optical cable from my dvd player to either minidisc digi-in or my computer digi-in and et voila, excellent quality copy ready for cd. Bit for bit, indeed! Then it's just a case of burning a copy to cd. Pretty simple.

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 21:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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And again, based on this same good authority, I'm not totally convinced that the audio ripped from a DVD then burned on a CD-R sounds as good as the original CD might. To me, it sounds softer and not as sharp.


Could be, though I haven't experienced one myself yet. When I remastered an expanded karaoke set from the recent DVD via analog cables whilst having the player set to downmix to PCM first, I was shocked how good it sounded.

I was playing around with trying to edit together an extended version of 'I Was Born to Love You' and I couldn't match up the sound between this and the 2001 remaster... this had a much fuller sound, more bass.. was clearly the higher quality of the two. I think perhaps the analog cables added a bit of warmth that was missing from the original.

But back on topic, I'm not surprised with this announcement at all.. musictap.net broke the news a couple weeks ago but few believed them, thought they were just talking about the DVD. The only surprise is that they're changing the title to an even worse one. I thought Hollywood was fond of having matching companion pieces.

I think it's natural for a CD version to be released, though I wouldn't buy it myself. Brian is very happy with the new audio mix and perhaps the stereo mix came out nice enough they wanted people to be able to have both. The music industry can't operate on the assumption that people will make their own CDs from DVDs.

It's too bad we didn't get a stereo preview on GVH2. That clip of Staying Power is mono.

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 22:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yay! The US is getting some ... this is happy. (Separation by sea is definitely not fun.)


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 22:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

DF:

Could be, though I haven't experienced one myself yet. When I remastered an expanded karaoke set from the recent DVD via analog cables whilst having the player set to downmix to PCM first, I was shocked how good it sounded.


In the end, DVD-audio-to-CD-R may sound just as good as a CD. It may just be that I'm not as versed as others in doing it myself. If it takes more patience or knowledge to do it, then we may be better off buying the CD if we want it like that.

Mainly what I've ripped was concert DVDs that I wanted on CD. I have yet to be impressed with the quality, but it may be my inner idiot shining through.


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The only surprise is that they're changing the title to an even worse one. I thought Hollywood was fond of having matching companion pieces.


Which makes me wonder if the CD version is different than the DVD. Wouldn't surprise me if the CD is a cut version of the DVD and only 1 disc.




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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 22:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For everyone saying "Why not rip the audio from the DVD?" the answer is simple.....not everyone has the capability of doing so.

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 22:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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For everyone saying "Why not rip the audio from the DVD?" the answer is simple.....not everyone has the capability of doing so.
Bingo! I for one will be more than happy to shell out the cash for both! :D


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Such cheesy titles. Command Performance... that's a winner! Yes anyway, did they give a release date yet? (And if this is a stupid question ignore it please.) :)

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The only problem with ripping audio tracks from DVD's that have CD compainion releases (such as Avril Lavigne's "My World live" or 46664), that DVD's often have Dolby Digital as audio track formats, whether in 2.0 stereo or 5.1 surround sound, so the sound isn't going to be the full range as it would be with CD's, due to the fact Dolby Digital is a lossy compression format, as well as MP2 and DTS. Wembley '86 by Queen is an exception; it uses lossless PCM on the DVD, and is uncut, which is nice because the CD release (and rerelease) was split into two discs, which isn't as nice because you'd have to switch between discs to listen to certain songs from the set, whereas the DVD release has it all on one disc, and with slightly better sound than the CD release (because the DVD is 48kHz, while CD is 44.1kHz).

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Btw. I'd prefer Command Performance over On Fire At The Bowl anyday!

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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rhapsody__87 wrote:

Such cheesy titles. Command Performance... that's a winner! Yes anyway, did they give a release date yet? (And if this is a stupid question ignore it please.) :)

HOLY SHIT... I'm such an IDIOT. I love it when I don't read things that are right in front of me. Hahahaha
You get the prize for today. ;)


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ergh can't they just use Live At Milton Keynes '82 or something? Anything???


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"You get the prize for today. ;)"

Whee, I love prizes. I can't blame this ditziness on being in the sun too much anymore!


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Posted: 05 Aug 04, 23:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wasn't really saying that audio from DVD in general can be as good as CD, I was just pointing out that in fact it could actually be better to record it manually rather than 'ripping' in some cases.

I enjoy projects like that myself. To me, it wouldn't be as much fun just extracting the sound, though I'd love to give it a try if I ever get around to getting a DVD drive :-P

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Posted: 06 Aug 04, 00:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting title for the CD, but I'll buy it anyway. :D


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