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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 12:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i know some bands have a few good songs, but what i wanna know is how did Queen get to the point where almost every song they wrote was a good song? and i'm not saying that just because i like Queen. they are so talented


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 12:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good question. One that holds many different answers, from Freddie's early music beginnings in India, to John's when he picked up a guitar.

And of course, don't forget the producers that helped Queen to understand how to build up songs in different ways. I think their last, David Richards, played heavily in the last albums.

Can anyone throw more ideas on this one?

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Practice!


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmmmm..... How about practice, perseverance, pure raw talent, creativity, and perhaps a little bit of luck! Of course I am sure there are loads more that can be said on how Queen became the rock gods they are.

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 14:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's because they all have creative minds, none of them could have made it on their own... OK, Freddie would have come pretty far, but he would never have achieved the greatness Queen reached. It's just the talent of the four guys together, they can't do that alone...


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because they were brilliant.

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 15:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"How did Queen get so good?"

Magic.


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

2 main things for me :

- Because the four of them were so different

- Because all of them are clever people (and educated people, remember they are all post-graduate) and didn't see the interest of splitting or fall into drugs


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 16:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They were just the perfect blend of talent, practice, perserverence, and will to succeed.


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 16:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And don't forget a good early promotion


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 17:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

practice I suppose :)

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 17:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's their magnificent chemistry of course!

I mean, think about it:
What could the heat of reaction for the reaction of calcium hydroxide and carbon dioxide to form calcium carbonate and dihydrogen monoxide be?

Yes, you are right. It's -72.7 kJ! It's so obvious now why Queen are such a great band.


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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I`m a GnR fan, so I find all of their songs interesting (and most of their covers). This forum is almost entirely of Queen fans, who find all or most of Queen songs interesting. Same story. Or a Beatles forum or an Xtreme forum, etc

I think , personally, that all pro bands (from Kiss to Bangles) put their effort in building up each song to stand up in its own right.


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Posted: 11 Aug 04, 01:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pim Derks wrote:

Because they were brilliant.


Oh my god! A potentially honest, serious, and non-sarcastic post from Pim!

*applauds*


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Posted: 11 Aug 04, 12:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that Queen became so good because of a couple of things:

1) Freddie Mercury's talent
2) The wright musicians to play with him
3) capable of writing all good songs themselves and everyone has different characters
4) very clever/consistent marketing. I think we don't have to forget that.

Queen is not the best band in the world, but Freddie is the best singer. Queen would have been rubbish without Freddie (AS EVERYTHING AFTER MADE IN HEAVEN IS)

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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 07:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

radio_what's_new wrote:

I think that Queen became so good because of a couple of things:

1) Freddie Mercury's talent
2) The wright musicians to play with him
3) capable of writing all good songs themselves and everyone has different characters
4) very clever/consistent marketing. I think we don't have to forget that.

Queen is not the best band in the world, but Freddie is the best singer. Queen would have been rubbish without Freddie (AS EVERYTHING AFTER MADE IN HEAVEN IS)


Trifle harsh I think. They would've been very different without Fred, but it's true that they would not have been as successful. But I think you have to credit the three of them for No-One But You. that was a good track. Everything else they've done is really re-hashing old ground, so doesn't really count. I thought Roger's 46664 tracks were ok. But yes, they miss Mr Mercury (for inspiration as well as his talent)


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 08:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


One thing that the Tribute Concert brought home to me and was later confirmed by Made in Heaven is that the three remaining members of Queen are bloody great musicians.

They should still be working together and making new music!




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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know the answer!!!!

It's just because:


QUEEN ROCKS!!!!!!!


Forever and ever and ever....


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 18:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They took the best of their own legendary idols such as the beatles and added to it


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 21:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"but Freddie is the best singer. Queen would have been rubbish without Freddie (AS EVERYTHING AFTER MADE IN HEAVEN IS"


STEPFORD ALERT!


Come on, There are far better rock singers then Freddie, there are far better pop singers then Freddie. Everything after made in heaven? That would be 1 song?


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