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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 22:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I came across an MP3 titled "Queen Boot - It's Late (1981).mp3"

It's of an amazing sound quality (almost sound-board).

Anyone know what this might be from? And, if so, if it's a boot or commercial release? And, if either, where I might find it?

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 22:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If it helps, the version of the song is about 7 minutes long with freddie doing the echo overlays of GDML in the middle.

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 23:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

that is from a BBC session (1977)...

also Spread Your Wings, My Melancholy Blues (w/ Guitar Solo) and the We Will Rock You Slow/Siddharta bit/We Will Rock You Fast

it's must have

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 23:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Was it a live show or just a live recording? This file clearly has a large audience.

If it's one of the BBC sessions, is it a realesed one or is it a bootleg?

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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 23:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

joeyjojo wrote:

Was it a live show or just a live recording? This file clearly has a large audience.


The BBC sessions were, for the most part, re-recordings of Queen tracks; the audience is fake, I believe. It's Late was recorded during their last session along with Melancholy Blues, Spread Your Wings, and WWRY, which is beyond a doubt the best version of WWRY that is out there.

joeyjojo wrote:


If it's one of the BBC sessions, is it a realesed one or is it a bootleg?


Only the first and third sessions were officially released. Sessions 2, 4, 5, and 6 have not released properly, though they can be found on various bootlegs and online sources. The BBC sessions are quite easy to find.




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Posted: 10 Aug 04, 23:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Info on the BBC sessions stolen from John S. Stuart many moons ago:

Queen Complete BBC Sessions. All tracks have been digitally re-mastered for inclusion
in the forthcoming Anthology Boxset.


1973
BBC Radio One Session, 5th February 1973: Queen At The Beeb
Recorded 5th February 1973, Studio Langham 1. Produced by Bernie Andrews, Engineered by John
Etchells. Broadcast 15th February 1973, John Peel Sounds Of The Seventies. Officially released
14th Dec 1989 Queen At The Beeb, Band Of Joy BOJCD 001. Keep Yourself Alive, also features on
21 Years Of Alternative Radio One, Strange Fruit SFRCD 2000.
My Fairy King, Keep Yourself Alive, Doin’ Alright, Liar

BBC Radio One Session, 25th July 1973: Freddie’s Boys At The Beeb
Freddie’s Boys At The Beeb Bootleg LP
From The Beeb To Tokyo Bootleg CD
Recorded 25th July 1973, Studio Langham 1. Produced by Jeff Griffin, Engineered by Chris Lycett
& John Etchells. Broadcast 13th August 1973, Bob Harris Sounds Of The Seventies. Originally aired
as three-track session (Keep Yourself Alive omitted). Repeated 24th September 1973 (Keep
Yourself Alive included). All pre 1980 BBC radio sessions officially erased.
See What A Fool I’ve Been, Liar, Son And Daughter, (Keep Yourself Alive)

BBC Radio One In Concert, 13th September 1973:
Live In Concert: Golder's Green Hippodrome, London. Broadcast live 13th September 1973 BBC
Radio One "In Concert" series. Produced by Jeff Griffin. Sound balance by John Etchells. Leaping
about Paul Deley. Officially unavailable. Pop Spectacular BBC Transcription Services LP 135600 - S.
(Rock 'n Roll medley NOT broadcast, and NOT on LP).
Procession, Father To Son, Son And Daughter, See What A Fool I've Been, Ogre Battle, Liar
Jailhouse Rock, Stupid Cupid, Bebopa Lula, Big Spender, Bamalama Lamaloo

BBC Radio One Session, 3rd December 1973: Queen At The Beeb
Recorded 3rd December 1973, Studio Langham 1. Produced by Bernie Andrews. Engineered by
Mike Franks & Nick Griffiths. Broadcast 6th December 1973, John Peel Sounds Of The Seventies.
Officially released 14th Dec 1989 as Queen At The Beeb, Band Of Joy BOJCD 001.
Great King Rat, Modern Times Rock ‘n Roll, Son And Daughter, Ogre Battle

1974
BBC Radio One Session, 3rd April 1974: Queen II
Recorded 3rd April 1974, Studio Langham 1. Produced by Pete Ritzema, Engineer unknown.
Broadcast 15th April 1974, Bob Harris Sounds Of The Seventies. Officially erased by the BBC. A
copy of the original off-air broadcast has been donated to the Queen archive.
Modern Times Rock ‘n Roll, March Of The Black Queen, Nevermore, White Queen

BBC Radio One Session, 16th October 1974: Sheer Heart Attack
Recorded 16th October 1974, Studio Maida Vale 4. Produced by Jeff Griffin, Engineer unknown.
Broadcast 4th November 1974. Bob Harris Sounds Of The Seventies.
Now I’m Here, Flick Of The Wrist, Stone Cold Crazy, Tenement Funster

1975
BBC Radio One In Concert, 24th December 1975
Live In Concert: Hammersmith Odeon, London. Broadcast live 24th December 1975. BBC Radio
One "In Concert" and BBC 2 "Old Grey Whistle Test” television simulcast. Repe


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Posted: 11 Aug 04, 08:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zeni:

Thanks!

I Have the Queen at the Beeb CD. There's another one? I'll have to check it out.

And, alas, I'm a bit new to Queen bootlegs (and bootlegs in general)...which would be one of the 'normal routes' to check for this particular boot?

And what's with 'officially' erasing them. Why would they do that?

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Posted: 11 Aug 04, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

joeyjojo wrote:

Zeni:

Thanks!

I Have the Queen at the Beeb CD. There's another one? I'll have to check it out.

And, alas, I'm a bit new to Queen bootlegs (and bootlegs in general)...which would be one of the 'normal routes' to check for this particular boot?

And what's with 'officially' erasing them. Why would they do that?


Queen At the Beeb (and Hollywood's At the BBC) contain the first and third sessions and remain the only officially released Queen BBC sessions. There were plans to release more in 1996, but they got scrapped. Currently, rumors abound that the BBC sessions will be released with the Box Sets, whenever that might be.

If you want the BBC sessions in mp3, then they are available through any file sharing program like Kazaa or the QueenHub. If you want them as a real bootleg, I often see them for sale on places like ebay, though you must be careful you're not just getting an mp3-sourced boot. I'd recommend seeing if any other new bootleg collector has them, then trying to arrange a trade.

As for "officially erased," the BBC has a habit of doing that, I suppose to save on expenses and re-use tapes; Mr. Stuart knows more about the practices of the BBC when it comes to erasing tapes. Queen's BBC sessions are but one causualty of this.


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Posted: 11 Aug 04, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

there was a bootleg tape did the rounds (music fairs) about 1990 called Queen - Live Middlesex 78. This was clearly the tape you are referring to it IS the complete BBC77 session with audience sounds dubbed onto it all. It is cleverly done, but you do get to recognise the audience loops - and a FAKE nonetheless. Your IT'S LATE would (i'm 100% convinced) be from this "show"


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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 00:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, if anyone has this show and wants to seed it (wink, wink... ;o)

In the meantime, I'll wait patiently for my initiation into the Queen Hub.

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Posted: 14 Aug 04, 01:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Victoville was kind enough to post the '77 show <a href="http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=377397">here</a>

This is definitely the same song as I have, with two difference's: My has audience-track (victor's doesn't) and the one I have is a very clean recording (while victor's has a lot of hiss).

The latter issue could certainly be a difference in sourcing (perhaps there's better originals out there than the one the MP3s were sourced from) but is there also two versions of the recordings...one without audience/reverb and one with?

(Still waiting to get on the hub... ;o)

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Posted: 14 Aug 04, 01:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmm...no HTML in here, eh? Let's try this:

http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=377397