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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know if this discussion has ever been made, but I would like to discuss about the fact: Does John Deacon sing on records or during concerts?

I know that Sebastian has a beautiful website with lots of information about 'who sings what', but its always nice to start a discussion.

If you think that you hear John Deacon sing on a record/during a concert, then please give the source.

Okay one thing is for sure: He does sing during Wembley '86 second night concert. He sings 'TOEWA' twice during 'Baby your so square...etc.', in Roger's mike. (Well actually it's John's mike, but at this point they had turned it on:P)


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm quite sure he sang along live, but I doubt he ever did any singing in the studio.

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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"He sings 'TOEWA'"

TOEWA?


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"TOEWA?"

Yes, 'Baby you're so square...I don't care, toewa, toewa, toewa, and then TOEWA (Roger and John)'



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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At the end of "Let me entertain you" you can hear John saying "not many, not many".

And there's that "TOEWA" thing ofcourse


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In the Earls Court gig (1977) John can be heard singing during Somebody To Love.

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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In earlier concerts, he sang into Freddie's mic during Liar, but I don't know if he was mouthing or actually singing.


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 15:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John is not singing in concerts, maybe at wembley he sings "toewa" or whatever it is... but the rest of the concert he is not singing, I know this for sure 'cause on the dvd somewhere, Roger or Brian says... it's just the 3 of us singing, by which he means, himself, Roger (or Brian, depends on who said it) and Freddie... so that means that John is not singing.... He might be pretending to, or they just turned off his mic....


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Okay, on this picture you can see John sing the 'TOEWA-thing'

http://sebastian.queenconcerts.com/percussion.jpg

Thanks to Sebastian for this!


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 16:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know that in music videos the vocals and such are pre-recorded so their just mouthing but I see him mouthing in quite a few of those.


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 16:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whatever anyone says, John didn't sing in the studio


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 16:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LMAO, in that picture it looks like Roger is pushing him away...John looks all happy, and he's trying to sing into the mic, and Roger's look and hand on Deaky's shoulder seems to be saying "Ew! No, get away, you sing like a godawful impaled donkey!"


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"TOEWA?"

Yes, 'Baby you're so square...I don't care, toewa, toewa, toewa, and then TOEWA (Roger and John)'

Shouldn't that be doowap, doowap, doowap, doowap :D

But seriously, John probably sings along at concerts and so on but not while recording in the studio. Although if you listen real carefully, you can hear someone say (say, not sing) bicycle in ..well, Bicycle Race. I always thought that was John...because he's funny like that. ;-)


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 18:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ive said this a few times- they gave him a mic at alot of the concerts, so why waste money and time setting that up if he wasnt even doing anything :D


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 23:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Shouldn't that be doowap, doowap, doowap, doowap :D"

I think the OP was referring to the version more heard in Japanese Karaoke bars.

So, did John not sing by choice or by lack of vocal skills?

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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 23:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remembering reading a quote from John that said he wished he could sing because it would make songwriting easier, but he admitted that he has a bad voice.


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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 01:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Answer to the first question: Yes, this topic has been discussed before.
2nd question: Yes, John did sing live. Not much but he did.
Two examples; If you listen to Mannheim 86 bootleg (I assume most of you have it), listen with headphones carefully A Kind Of Magic. There you will hear John singing "..it's a kind of magic.." early in the song.
When people say John's mic was not on, that can be proved wrong when watching Buenos Aires March 1st '81 show. During Save Me Freddie's mic fails and he grabs John's mic. You can hear how they quickly turn the volume up on that one from the mixing board so it indeed was on, the volume level was just much lower than on the rest of the mics.

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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 05:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, John has also the credit: backing vocals from the song BohRap which Bad News covered.
But well, if you call that sing, well euh....


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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 05:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The A Kind Of Magic thing could be Spike


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.