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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The most obvious one is when Brian is heard singing on "(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care" yet he is nowhere near a microphone.

On "One Vision" Freddie has overdubbed a second voice during the line "Look what they've done to my dreams".

All you experts out there, can you tell how much of the show was actually overdubbed besides the two incidents mentioned above?

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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"The most obvious one is when Brian is heard singing on "(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care" yet he is nowhere near a microphone."


Thats Spike you hear, not Brian


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 14:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"On "One Vision" Freddie has overdubbed a second voice during the line "Look what they've done to my dreams"."

Also on We are the Champions, the 'I've come through'" part has an overdubbed vocal part.

And Brians singing part on One Vision is replaced with a part from another concert (Or re-recorded in the studio) And so is the solo


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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 16:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"The most obvious one is when Brian is heard singing on "(You're So Square) Baby I Don't Care" yet he is nowhere near a microphone.


Thats Spike you hear, not Brian"


Oh, I could have sworn it sounds very much like Brian... but come to think of it, I haven't really heard what Spike sounds like, so I can't argue with that.




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Posted: 12 Aug 04, 16:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are many overdubs!

Just own the cd bootleg cald: '' Flash Freddie '' as it has many songs from the 12.7.86 Wembley date with not the overdubs and i love it!
Unfortunately, the bootleg covers not the complete concert and has 2 bonus tracks from BBC


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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 02:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There were EXACTLY 154 293 493 399 382 095 399 953.09482799 to the power of 50843923 number of overdubs on the wembley CD.

It took 100 super power NASA computers 12 years to calculate this exactly.

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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 02:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always thought that all these bootlegs are simple copies of the VHS. Mainly because the tracklist is usually the same. Which would suggest that the VHS wasn't overdubbed but the 2CD and DVD releases were. Is that correct?

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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 05:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's not correct. Also the VHS release was overdubbed.


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Posted: 13 Aug 04, 05:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But why do the Wembley bootlegs have the tracklist same or similar to the VHS? Or did any bootleg cover the full concert?

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Posted: 14 Aug 04, 01:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The bootlegs came from the 1986 radio broadcast(s), if my facts are correct. But definitely, there are tonnes of overdubs. Many lines in One Vision, AKOM, and WATC at least. All of the chorus of WATC are overdubbed with Freddie singing the upper octave. There's one point on the DVD where visually, he is clearly singing the lower octave, but the audio is of him singing the upper octave.


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Posted: 14 Aug 04, 19:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just a favor to ask. When talking about Queen songs, can you atleast state the full title of the song just once rather than this AOBTD and GDML or FTMS and so on so that EVERYONE knows what your talking about? That'd be great.


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Posted: 15 Aug 04, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with Sir GH.

Martin, there is one on your homepage. It's not from VHS or LD: A Day At The Stadium.

http://www.queenconcerts.com/index.php?action=bootlegs&zpusob=titles&file=1986-07-12a.txt




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Posted: 16 Aug 04, 01:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.MadGuy wrote:

Just a favor to ask. When talking about Queen songs, can you atleast state the full title of the song just once rather than this AOBTD and GDML or FTMS and so on so that EVERYONE knows what your talking about? That'd be great.


It's a fair request, but you have to keep in mind, the people who read these kinds of posts are generally those who know what the acronyms stand for. If "WWRY" and "AOBTD" don't ring a bell in your head, then one must wonder why you're reading deeply into topic about the Wembley DVD overdubs, as opposed to listening to the Greatest Hits cds first.


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Posted: 21 Aug 04, 16:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The fact that I don't feel like "decoding" all of these stupid acronyms has nothing to do with my lack of queen knowledge and frankly I am upset with your insinuation that I'm either a "Fair weather" Queen fan or some "newbie".


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Posted: 21 Aug 04, 16:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Eleventy billion


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Posted: 24 Aug 04, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.MadGuy wrote:

The fact that I don't feel like "decoding" all of these stupid acronyms has nothing to do with my lack of queen knowledge and frankly I am upset with your insinuation that I'm either a "Fair weather" Queen fan or some "newbie".


So the fact that "you don't feel like it" is going to change the way QZers have communicated for years?


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Posted: 24 Aug 04, 15:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IIRC & AFAIK, LAW was orig b/cast as "Real Magic", so the FM tape that feeds the boot is prob less overdubbed, whereas the VHS was released much later.

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Posted: 24 Aug 04, 15:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What's FTMS?



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Posted: 24 Aug 04, 18:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not sure about the overdubs myself and don't really care I enjoyed the show and the DVD is an excellent reminder! However while not wanting to argue about it if Mr Scully's interrpritation is right who would have dubbed Freddies parts for the 2 CD's & DVD? My understanding is that had Freddie not died certainly the CD's would never have been released. If they had been planned for release surely they would have come out instead of the cobbled together Live Magic? Just a thought!


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Posted: 24 Aug 04, 18:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They were probably overdubbed for the Xmas 1986 broadcast. For the cd-release they probably used snippets from other MT concerts, like Budapest or other shows which were recorded profesionally to cover up any mistakes.