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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 11:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Would Queen have been considered a goth band in the early days? They look sort of dead on the Queen II cover, and seem goth at the Rainbow show where Freddie's showing off his new gloves with claws on them....





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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In short, no.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

C'mon, Couldn't you spring for a "Hell no"? ;)


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that, like any sane person, they would rather have had their nuts sucked out of an airplane window than ever be considered 'goth'.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 12:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No. While the first post in this thread makes a good case, I would say that their musical and video output, as well as their "looks" throughout the years are far to varied to pigeonhole them.

Does Crazy Little Thing... make them a rockabilly band?


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 12:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

twowaymirrormountain wrote:

Does Crazy Little Thing... make them a rockabilly band?
That's different though, All they did there was cover an old Elvis song.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I guess what I mean is that, like most great bands, Queen is unique enough not to be a part of any genre.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

don't be ridiculous, they made Medieval Metal :P


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 13:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Isn't a pre-requisite to being considered 'goth' that you are also under the age of 18?



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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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twowaymirrormountain wrote:

Does Crazy Little Thing... make them a rockabilly band?
That's different though, All they did there was cover an old Elvis song.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 13:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

joeyjojo wrote:

Isn't a pre-requisite to being considered 'goth' that you are also under the age of 18?



I think this also deserves a "LOL" But in an intentional sense, this time.


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Posted: 22 Aug 04, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Note that Queen uses to be pigeonholed as either Glam Rock or "combined opera with rock", and in my opinion both statements are ridiculous. Glam - only in Fred`s looks, perhaps Brian (but not even the whole band), and only in one or two songs out of 170. Opera + rock, only one section of one song, out of 170.

To name them a rockabilly band (for 2 songs and the middle eight of `Don`t Try Suicide`) would be more correct. Or less absurd


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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 03:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Goth? No. Queen were always too optimistic to be goth. Sadly, though, they'll always be considered a rock band. It was the 70's so you were either rock or disco or punk. I don't think Queen stayed a rock band and I'm glad because rock music can be very one-dimensional and narrow-minded at times. Queen always did what they wanted to do and I'm glad. I don't think they can be pigeonholed into one category.


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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 04:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bahahahah! thats funny! no they weren't! in the beginning, Queen said (well, i think they said) that they wanted to be a moody group, so they had the dark thing going on...but goth! hell no!


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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 05:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Would Queen have been considered a goth band in the early days? They look sort of dead on the Queen II cover, and seem goth at the Rainbow show where Freddie's showing off his new gloves with claws on them...."

Well, some songs at that time contain goth-things, like in The March of the Black Queen for example:
'Black on, black on every finger nail and toe...'
or
'I'm lord of all darkness, I'm Queen of the night..'

So, it could be...






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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 05:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rick wrote:

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Well, some songs at that time contain goth-things, like in The March of the Black Queen for example:
'Black on, black on every finger nail and toe...'
or
'I'm lord of all darkness, I'm Queen of the night..'

So, it could be...





Are you trying to say that Queen were goth just because of two lines from a song?!... Or just because of using terms like: "black", "darkness", "night"?!
Wait a second! Then The Darkness are the most goth band ever, because of their name!
Or were they goth because of Freddie's nails? Here's a funny link to that: "black on every finger nail" :)



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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 05:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Are you trying to say that Queen were goth just because of two lines from a song?!... Or just because of using terms like: "black", "darkness", "night"?!
Wait a second! Then The Darkness are the most goth band ever, because of their name!
Or were they goth because of Freddie's nails? Here's a funny link to that: "black on every finger nail" :)"

Okay, you're right, I didn't mean that.
But look how they were dressed at that time, it's really gothic-style. I didn't say they were, but what the heck, this is a stupid topic, the starter of this topic is a asshole. Queen were at that time pure heavy rock 'n' roll, not gothic. Only the clothes were gothic-style, not the music.



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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 06:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Goth only became a genre around the late 70's a spin off of Punk probably led by the brilliant Dave Vanian although the Damned were only ever considered slightly Goth. http://www.officialdamned.com/docs/bandmembers/dave/index.htm Vanian's influences were old horror movies and the music of the MC5, Stooges and Velvet Underground. This trend was later adapted by Bahaus, Sisters of Mercy and The Southern Death Cult etc. So in short Queen were pre goth and as a lot of people have pointed out far less one dimensional than most of their peers!

Queen thankfully were one band which it has been impossible to pigeon hole which is probably been the main reason for their longevity! Many have tried all have failed!!!


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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 07:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Damn you people in the 70's! Look what you've done. Punk..and..anarcho-punk. Yeah, that's my beef with the 70's.


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Posted: 23 Aug 04, 07:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They were first trash metal band in the world... In 1974 they recorded "Stone Cold Crazy"...