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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 05:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi again,
maybe this will sound a little stupid to you, but I'd like to know your answers...

Which software do you usually use for removing the gaps between the tracks of a bootleg concert... I tried with iTunes but it leaves a second anyway.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Albyboy


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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 05:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Only mp3-sourced bootlegs have gaps between tracks. FLAC/APE/SHN doesn't have that problem.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 05:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not completely true ;)
I have bootlegs which are definitely not mp3 sourced, but have small gaps between tracks because of bad editing. Anyway, I use CoolEdit. But I think any simple wave editor can do such a job. There's a simple wave editor which comes with EAC... that one should be sufficient.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 05:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Even removing the gaps between the songs and burning to disc does not get rid of them,
The burning software itself makes a gap.
The only way I can think of doing it, is already mentioned using cool edit, joining all the songs together, taking out the gaps, then burning to disc.
This is ok but not very good if you wish to skip songs or start at track 4 maybe, because the whole concert would effectively be just 1 track. Therefore lots of time wasted FF or REW to the position required..


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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 05:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, you're right Tim, I wouldn't have asked if FLAC bootlegs didn't have gaps between tracks ;=)

I'll try as you told me...

Anyway, is there anyone of you who can help me downloading the Earl's Court AUDIO bootleg? I've kept the window open for a bit but no-one seems to be there peering...

Thank you very much for your kind attention!!!

Albyboy


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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 06:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

albyboy wrote:

Yeah, you're right Tim, I wouldn't have asked if FLAC bootlegs didn't have gaps between tracks ;=)

I'll try as you told me...



I'm not THE expert, but I think that the following method is the best:
- join the songs into one big file
- remove the gaps
- split them again and make sure you do this exactly at a complete number of cd sectors.

About the last step. Apparently you can also insert cues and make a cue file. Some burning software can directly burn your cd with the correct tracks with that cue file. So you don't have to split them manually, but I have no experience with this. Maybe someone else can give a better solution.

edit: of course you use the disc-at-once option when you burn your cd.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 06:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've compiled a number of live shows myself....

make sure when you split a show into tracks that you 'cut' at 75fps blocks... Cool Edit (actually now called Adobe Audition) can snap to 75fps making it easy.....




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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 06:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh yeah, boys, thank you all... The Earl's Court is downloading... Love you all, I think I'll leave my window open for 10 years after I have finished!!!!!!!

Thank you in particular to Tim, Ogre and James... You have been very kind with me!!! To James, I love Denmark, I have been living in Odense for one year (I was working as a product designer) and I remember that period as one of the most happy in all my life... Totally in love with Denmark!!!

See you soon...

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 07:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're welcome :) Ahhh, you're Italian? I've been in Italy for three months this year (Siena). E io sono innamorato a Siena e Italia, forse ritorno mai a Italia ;)

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 07:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oooooooh, never say never... Why shouldn't you come back to Italy again? It's not that distant...

Tell me when you are coming next time... I'm sure it will happen...

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 07:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think I made an error... I meant: maybe I will return to Italy some day :)

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 07:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I thought you meant that :)

So, let me know, OK?

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 07:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Va bene.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 09:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is kind of obvious but nobody said it so I will.. when you burn, make sure you use 'disc at once' rather than 'track at once'. In disc at once mode, no gaps are added by the burning software.. at least none that I've used. Nero, Roxio, NTI.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 10:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I use Ejay Music Cleaning Studio. It's very effective for deleting gaps skips or other strange and irritant noises. Tim is right; there are al ot of recordings with clicks or 2 sec gaps that are not mp3 sourced.

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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 12:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, Tim is right, my old CD burning software wasn't able to reduce gaps between tracks - it was always stuck at 2 seconds...

Is there anyone out there a CoolEdit buff (apart from RonB :-), I have a query regarding the MB free which is displayed in the bottom right hand corner...


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Posted: 26 Aug 04, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What about cool edit?


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Posted: 27 Aug 04, 00:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Different programmes used for encoding the files seem to make different sized gaps... Not to mention the effects of encoding the same songs twice. The gaps I've seen have ranged from 0.005 seconds to 0.070 seconds.

I use Sound Forge to open the mp3 files, cut out the gaps with the accuracy of a 0.001 seconds, and save them as .wav files to burn. It only takes a matter of seconds for each song.