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Posted: 11 Oct 04, 21:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hot space was almost taken as a forgotten (if not hated) piece of work during all Queen lifetime, and Under pressure was seen as the only correct piece of the album.

But just during 14 years. In 1996 Put out the fire appeared in Queen Rocks. Las palabras de amor did the same in 1999 in GH3. GVH2DVD included six videos from that era in 2003. And now in 2004 we have a CD and a DVD from 1982, including of course five live tracks.

Not a question. Just a comment about a "coincidence?"

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Posted: 11 Oct 04, 21:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Coincidence.


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Posted: 11 Oct 04, 23:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

People are just now coming to understand that Hot Space is, in fact, awesome.

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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 00:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hate that album solely for the craptastic cover art.

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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 05:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMHO Hot Space is not that bad album - maybe only the artificial sound makes it to the album which polarizes the listeners. If they had used more "real" instruments, like on the stunning Hot Space tour, it would sound more Queenish. There isn't really a weak point on the album - I mean Body Language seems more like a FM-solo-thing to me - Staying Power is kinda groovy (see MK), Dancer misses the rock-sound, but isn't that bad, Back Chat is IMO more variedly than maybe AOBTD, Action this day sounds quite good on even on that album, Put out the fire is IMO a bit overrated nowadays, but not as bad as Cool Cat, which is IMO the weak point on that album. Calling all girls is not by mistake a single in some countries, and sounds authentic. Las Palabras de Amor, a song I never really liked before, doesnt put shame on the band. Under Pressure is of course the BIG song on the album, but IMO not better than my favorite on this release, Life is Real, which shows all trademarks of a classic Queen song. All in all, the only critical point is the selction of instruments - the sound itself is very good on the album, good mix, very tight, maybe too "even" for a rock band.
Okay, thats all IMHO, but I like the sound of Hot Space more than the sound on The Works ... but maybe this is another topic....


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 07:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hot Space is a fantastic album. Loved it when I first brought it back in 88. Life is Real was one of those songs I played over and over again. I dont think Under Pressure is the best on there, for me its Back Chat by a mile.


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 09:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hot Space - dont we all love it in some ways ? Because it's so debatable ? :-)
Seriously, it is the most controversial album. And for good reasons, new style, dance approach etc.
But to be honest, I like it.

"It's only a bloody record... People get so excited about these things... "


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 09:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Question on Hot Space and specifically about Under Pressure. The 'that's ok' does not appear on another version I have of UP and I'm wondering where the 'that's ok'-less version came from? SPACE? HOT SPACE?


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

iGSM wrote:

Question on Hot Space and specifically about Under Pressure. The 'that's ok' does not appear on another version I have of UP and I'm wondering where the 'that's ok'-less version came from? SPACE? HOT SPACE?


ah yes it is I THINK the version for the Greatest Hits 2?!


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 10:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

re: "That's Okay" --

the "That's Okay"-less version is, technically, an HR remix, despite the fact that is absolutely the only difference between the two versions. it originally appeared (and has only appeared on, to my knowledge) 'Classic Queen' (the one with the navy blue cover which looks similar to the Greatest Hits II cover everyone else is familiar with).


as far as Hot Space finally being recognized for what it's worth, i've always gotten the impression that it was mostly we rare American Queen fans that despised the album so much (sure, everyone else agrees it wasn't their finest hour, but no-one seems to hold the particular disdain for it that Americans do), which i think is partly due to the fact that it came out at a time when there was a huge backlash against disco [no longer was EVERYone dancing, it was now only the gays, whom most of straight America are horrible at accepting], as well as (inexplicably) funk [almost certainly due only to it's implied relationship with disco]; the other part of the attitude towards 'Hot Space', i think, is simply because of the layout of tracks. granted, on the original vinyl, it works wonderfully (you wind up with yet another "side white/side black" [racial pun intended]), but on subsequent CD issues, it simply doesn't work. you wind up with too many of one style of song grouped together. it would be like if Queen put out a compilation featuring 'Leroy Brown', 'Seaside Rendezvous', 'Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon', 'Good Company' -- every single Vaudeville-esque number to ever appear on an album: by the time you reach the end of the compilation, you're bored.

i honestly believe that 95% of peoples' problems with 'Hot Space' comes down to the fact that it's boring to listen to from start to finish, because it doesn't seem like there's much variety. (there is, but it's hard to recognize with everything grouped together the way it is).

the other 5%? the fact that 'Body Language' should have been on 'Mr Bad Guy'.

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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for clearing that up. I was devestated to not hear it then hear it all of a sudden.

I was actually listening to Hot Space coming home from work today and bugger me dead if I didn't think 'Shit, this is alright actually'. Having not listened to it the whole way through I had never heard Dancer, Back Chat or Action this Day; songs up until earlier today I thought were sub-par and went along the 'Hot Space is shit' etc.

I'm sure even The Beatles had a shit album...or did they? The album containing Paperback Writer. What a shocker. Well..just Paperback Writer.


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 11:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Paperback Writer wasn't ON an album! WAY TO JUST DOWNLOAD THE MP3!


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 11:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

iGSM wrote:



I'm sure even The Beatles had a shit album...or did they? The album containing Paperback Writer. What a shocker. Well..just Paperback Writer.


Ooooh Paperback Writer is a Single!
Maybe the Yellow Submarine album is their weakest.

Hot Space is better than Yellow Submarine :D


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 11:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank God. No album should be tainted by that song..curiously was Rain any good?


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Actually I got #1..and loathe Paperback Writer. But Lady Madonna makes up for it.


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 12:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I get so angry listening to hot space. I'm not going to turn this into an argument but loads of fans like queen because of the rock elements and have no interest in outdated funk. I also HATE HATE HATE the fact that all the footage we have of queen left is during this period.


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 14:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

iGSM wrote:

Thank God. No album should be tainted by that song..curiously was Rain any good?


Rain is excellent.

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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I quite like it...


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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 15:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I`ve bought "Hot Space" a year ago and when I`ve listened to it I was... hmmm... maybe not disappointed, but amazed, how it was possible, that the band, which was pure glam - rock have "evolved" in to funky, disco rhytms. This album is unequal - it starts with a shitty "Staying Power" and less shitty "Dancer", but then the quality of tracks is growing higher and higher.

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Posted: 12 Oct 04, 17:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

because the album broke a mould...queen strayed from their traditions...and while they may have done the new style very well - it is generally disliked by queen purists (myself included). if you actually grew up (musically) during the II, SHA, ANATO, ADATR, NOTW era then the game and HS would always be a major disappointment

and as for Rain/Paperback writer - this was an era of beatles music i love...my father playing this stuff to death in the late 60s left an imprint on me...i like to think that this period of beatles experimentation later influenced my tastes in queen

and don't knock this stuff - they were doing stuff on four channels that bands still couldn't do well with 24 channels over a decade later!


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