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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 14:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How much do you think Freddie contributed to Queen's success? i mean if someone else was the songer how successful do you think Queen would have been as a band?


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that without Freddie they would be successful, but not as much like they were with him.







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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 15:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just take the other members solist works. Add Smile and The Cross. Then substrate the Queen popularity. It's sad to say you´ll find almost nothing.

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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 15:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just look at what happened after 1991 and you'll see the answer.


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="teal">bambam</font> wrote:


Freddie - Queen= nothing


So untrue. Freddie could have become a huge star on his own if he had consentrated on his solo career.


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

.........and if you want a perfect example for how lacking THEY are without Freddi...then you only have to look at what happened after his death.....their solo stuff became almost worthless

and as a band ....nothing

yet...take the who....ac/dc...lose a star but stay as big!!!

freddie WAS queen, queen without freddie is smile...and that's fairly insignificant


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 17:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think each member contributed something to the band. Some people think John's just the bassist, but he wrote one of their hugest hits. Without him, would The Game have been the success it was? If Queen had a different lineup, sure, they could've been successful, but it was the four members together that made it work so well.


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 17:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There nothing without each other...


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 18:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why Queen is so successful?
For Freddie's overall charisma,my dear!


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Posted: 13 Oct 04, 18:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whisperer wrote:

Just look at what happened after 1991 and you'll see the answer.



What does that mean??? Theyre still as big as ever! They aint toured for 18 years, but you can bet that when the DVD is released in the next few weeks that itll be straight in at number 1 - Worldwide!

Queen will aways be big, so they are getting dragged through the mud by that poxy musical, but you can be that the music will live on alot longer that other artists from the same era!

And by that, I mean, as a band, not just Brian And Roger.


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 02:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

queen is nothing without freddie...but that goes the same with the other band members..its not queen without brian, roger, or john..take out any of those members and its 3 guys and nothing


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 03:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats crap!


Can you imagine the amount of people that would be scrambling for tickets if Rog, Bri and John were to announce I tour??? I think it would be far from a flop. To say Queen are nothing without Freddie is bollocks.


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 03:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think he meant as a starting band


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 03:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

i think he meant as a starting band



sorry. *gets coat*


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 03:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lol


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 04:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yeah, that whole 'getting A.I.D.S and dieing' thing really fucked that up. I believe he could have done well solo. Look at Robbie 'I'm Slightly Gay' Williams. Take that Take That.


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 05:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="whitesmoke">bambam</font> wrote:

Whisperer wrote:

<font color="teal">bambam</font> wrote:


Freddie - Queen= nothing


So untrue. Freddie could have become a huge star on his own if he had consentrated on his solo career.

Do you honestly think, at the very beginning, Freddie would have taken off alone? He would just have been a queer illustrator, for all I care.


What I'm saying is that everyone except Freddie in the band could have been replaced with some other guy (it's a completely different question if they would have wanted to replace) and Queen would still be Queen. If you replace Freddie, Queen changes too much and isn't Queen anymore.

I'm pretty sure that even B, R and J agree with me.


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 07:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> What does that mean??? Theyre still as big as ever! They aint toured for 18 years, but you can bet that when the DVD is released in the next few weeks that itll be straight in at number 1 - Worldwide!

Yeah, but which songs do the DVD to be successful? Champions, Crazy Little Thing, and specially Bo Rhap. And who wrote those?

Of course Queen would be much less famous without Rockyou (B), Radio (R) or Another One Bites (J), but still, Fred was the main hit composer. Let`s check the singles from the band that reached top 10 in the UK:

- Seven Seas (Fred)
- Killer Queen / Flick Of The Wrist (Fred / Fred)
- Bo Rhap (Fred)
- Somebody To Love (Fred)
- Champions / Rockyou (Fred / Brian)
- Don`t Stop Me Now (Fred)
- Crazy Little Thing Called Love (Fred)
- Another One Bites The Dust (John)
- Flash`s Theme (Brian)
- Under Pressure (Fred)
- Radio Ga Ga (Roger)
- I Want To Break Free (John)
- It`s A Hard Life (Fred)
- One Vision (Roger & Brian)
- A Kind Of Magic (Roger)
- I Want It All (Brian)
- Breakthru (Roger & Freddie)
- Innuendo (Freddie)
- Bo Rhap / Days Of Our Lives (Fred / Rog)
- Heaven For Everyone (Roger)
- Let Me Live (Roger?)

So, out of 21 top 10 hit singles in the UK, Mercury wrote 10.5: just as much as the other three combined. Remember also that Fred was who arranged Radio Ga Ga & A Kind Of Magic, and, according to Brian, was instrumental in the development of Another One Bites The Dust too. So there you go.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 07:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't agree with Whisperer. Freddie was essential to the success of Queen, sure, but it was the sound of Brian's guitar that got me hooked on this band 30 years ago, and there was nobody out there like him. I don't agree that Brian could be easily replaced. He's one of a kind, just like Freddie.


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 08:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yeah, that whole 'getting A.I.D.S and dieing' thing really fucked that up. I believe he could have done well solo. Look at Robbie 'I'm Slightly Gay' Williams. Take that Take That.
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