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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i 've bougth it it 4 years ago and i'm quite disappointed 'cause the "new" stuff is shit(except new york and few others).i thought there were more finished songs and not this crap that freddie would have never put on a record(at least in these versions)

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 12:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

maybe this topic had already been made.
if it's so,sorry

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Took you long enough to tell us you don't like it :-P

Having just gotten it myself, I know where you're coming from. I think a lot of the stuff was better off unheard :-P But there's enough good stuff to keep me happy, and the book itself is much nicer than I expected. Perhaps a little too large for comfortable viewing, but lots of interesting reading (or as the book itself might say "lot's") and amazing high quality photos.

Yeah, there's lots of pluses and minuses. It's nice to have as an archive if someone mentions a track, for reference.. but I'll probably end up making just a single disc of highlights for actual repeated listenings :)

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 13:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i paid it 200euro.and 200 euro for an highlight cd,a well made book and two dvds are enough.
yellow bbreezes and other songs suck.i am a great freddie fan but this release disappointed me(and freddie,of course,is not to blame)

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 13:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

gabriel79 wrote:

i am a great freddie fan but this release disappointed me(and freddie,of course,is not to blame)
I dunno... He DID write them. ;)


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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I just noticed they used the 1992 Hollywood masters of Barcelona & Great Pretender.. didn't remaster them at all. Interesting :-P

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 14:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

gabriel79 wrote:

i paid it 200euro.and 200 euro for an highlight cd,a well made book and two dvds are enough.
yellow bbreezes and other songs suck.i am a great freddie fan but this release disappointed me(and freddie,of course,is not to blame)


I think, we all knew what we were buying. And if not, we'd have taken look at the tracklist in the Internet.

It was not a common release for common people, just some of us would enjoy it.
If Freddie would have recorded more tracks like New York and Love makin' love, it could have been released as a new album. But if you knew the set included 10 cds, is to expect that it would be filled with alternative versions, single versions, crappy demos....

Musically, I think the average quality is 5 or 6. But I wasn't expecting more, I don't regret buying it, I would recommend it to other Queen fan, and I would run to buy it if I wouldn't have it now.

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Posted: 14 Oct 04, 18:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it is one of the most beautiful item i have in my collection.don´t want to miss it.


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 03:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can't believe what I'm reading!

The Solo Collection is awesome!!!!!!

I payed 200€ for mine and am completely satisfied. The only thing I'm dissapointed about are those tracks that remained unreleased (Ibex, Wreckage, Time live, Jackson...). Two more discs and the Collection would have been perfect.

For me the best demos are definitely Money Can't Buy Me Happiness, Love Makin' Love and Holding On.

It's also great to get early versions of released songs such as Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (love the intro on the demos).

The book is very good and it's great that it also has high-quality photos.


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 04:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it's the masterpiece of my collection too... The Rareties, the Untold Story, the Book and all the great music. What do you expect more???


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 04:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Part of the point of it was to see some of the raw talent/work of Freddie Mercury, and that's where the rarities and demos come in.

As a representation of what his solo output encompassed, I think it's an excellent collection, notwithstanding the omissions already mentioned.

The presentation marks it out as distinguished and is where a fair bit of cost comes in. Face it, they could have bundled 10 CD cases in a cardboard box with a crap booklet and sent that out (and they would've charged a not dissimilar amount probably). But this way, you get a lot of interesting material, both finished and unfinished, in a stylish package.

Worth it in my opinion.


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 05:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ok,i dont regret my euro,i don't want my money back.i just wanted to say that maybe a lot of songs are "crap".the cds i like most are demos 1&2.freddie does amazing things with his voice

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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 06:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The truth is that whoever has chosen the demos for the box set, he was probably deaf. There are heaps of demos in the archives and those from the box set are among the worst, I'm sure.

Apart from that, the box set is perfect.

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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 06:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I can't believe what I'm reading!

The Solo Collection is awesome!!!!!!

I payed 200€ for mine and am completely satisfied. The only thing I'm dissapointed about are those tracks that remained unreleased (Ibex, Wreckage, Time live, Jackson...). Two more discs and the Collection would have been perfect.

For me the best demos are definitely Money Can't Buy Me Happiness, Love Makin' Love and Holding On.

It's also great to get early versions of released songs such as Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (love the intro on the demos).

The book is very good and it's great that it also has high-quality photos.


You're right. The FM Solo Collection is excellent! (I only miss some songs e.g. Freddie's Last performance and the Michael Jackson demos)


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 09:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr. Scully wrote:

The truth is that whoever has chosen the demos for the box set, he was probably deaf. There are heaps of demos in the archives and those from the box set are among the worst, I'm sure.

Apart from that, the box set is perfect.


Heaps of FM solo archive material or queen archive material?


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 15:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Btw, is there a list of things left off the FM set that could've been included? I've only ever heard about alternate mixes/FM and MJ tracks and of course the Time performances. What else is missing?

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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 16:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why the hell did they even release a FM boxset, and why didn't they start off with a Queen box right away.

Freddie's solo songs already sound very thin and empty on Mr Bad Guy, and it's even worse on demos. Some of the unreleased stuff is very nice. For example the Barcelona stuff, and some songs from Mr Bad Guy (Love makin' Love and Mr Bad Guy) But as for the other 'new' songs...no wonder he didn't finish them.

I'm not a fan of Freddie's solo stuff or sound at all. I'm a fan of the Queen sound. But i'm not dissappointed with the boxset. The great package and book alone are worth buying


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tell you what gabriel79, tell me how much you want and i'll buy your FM boxset

i can't find one anywhere


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Posted: 15 Oct 04, 17:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I paid 200 USD and have no regret. It's worth to buy if you're a real fan or a die-hard collector, maybe for an ordinary audience that's not so interesting. By the way, there are still a lot of stuff that is not included anywhere: Exercises In Free Love by Montserrat (well, no Freddie on it, but how about Horns of Doom? Besides Freddie wrote EIFL), I Was born to love you (very early demo) etc.

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Posted: 16 Oct 04, 01:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whisperer wrote:

I can't believe what I'm reading!

The Solo Collection is awesome!!!!!!

I payed 200€ for mine and am completely satisfied. The only thing I'm dissapointed about are those tracks that remained unreleased (Ibex, Wreckage, Time live, Jackson...). Two more discs and the Collection would have been perfect.

For me the best demos are definitely Money Can't Buy Me Happiness, Love Makin' Love and Holding On.

It's also great to get early versions of released songs such as Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (love the intro on the demos).

The book is very good and it's great that it also has high-quality photos.


I fully agree!