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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 09:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

JOHN STUART WROTE....

But I can not understand deliberate, provoked attacks - especially against someone as friendly as YV, who in my opinion has done nothing to deserve this.

I think that Barbara maintains a dignified silence - and as such is above replying to such nonesense.

Good for you YV. You have many allies in here - and we all support you.

JOHN... THIS READS LIKE A PERSON SHORT OF FRIENDS, TRYING HIS UTMOST TO BUILD BRIDGES, IN CASE HE'S UPSET TOO MAY QZ PEOPLE - YOU TOO SEEM TO NOT BE THE FAVOURITE PERSON ON THIS SITE. AS YOU CLEARLY KNOW - HENCE THIS MAIL.

YOU SPEND TOO MUCH TIME TRYING TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF, TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOU, TO WIN THEIR RESPECT. YOU SHOULD NOT FEEL THE NEED TO TO DO THAT. THEY WILL LIKE YOU OR LOATHE YOU, RESPECT YOU OR NOT, BUT THEY'LL SEE STRAIGHT THROUGH GROVELLING INEPT ATTEMPS AT MAKING FRIENDS QUICK WITH THE TRANSPARENT 'SUPPORT' YOU JUST OFFERED. I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU WERE IN TEARS OVER MY COMMENTS ABOUT YV.

WERE YOU HOPING THAT THEY'D ALL RESPOND AND BE YOUR PALS AGAIN?? DID IT WORK???

YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO USE BARBARA'S POPULARITY TO YOUR OWN ADVANCEMENT DURING THIS RENEWED TIME OF JOHN STUART UNPOPULARITY. IT IS SYCOPHANTIC IN THE EXTREME. I NEARLY REACHED FOR THE BUCKET AT YOUR "LIKE ME PLEASE" SCHEME.

I'M SURE BARBARA CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF IF SHE WISHES TO.

I DID NOT THAT YV WAS BARBARA, OR WHAT GENDER SHE WAS. NOW WE'RE MAKING SLOW PROGRESS MEANT.

YOUR SYCOPHANTIC, SEMI-GROVELLING, "WE REALLY LOVE AND WILL SUPPORT YOU" TOKEN GESTURE IS BENEATH YOU JOHN.

PITY YOU DID NOT MAINTAIN THE DIGNIFIED SILENCE BARBARA HAS. INSTEAD YOU'RE TRYING (VERY BADLY) TO BUY POPULARITY - AGAIN!!!

PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE NOT THAT EASILY WON OVER - SURELY????

GREG BROOKS (THE REAL ONE)



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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It takes a certain something to win me over. Offer of cup cakes does the trick.

I just thought I'd pop in and say hello, maybe get the first response.. if not..God Save the Queen! God defend New Zealand but thank Christ for Australia.


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...one dump...one turd...two tits...John Deacon...

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You are spamming the board. Also you keep typing in Caps lock which is regarded yelling on this board and all other boards I know.

We do not have many rules here but I gladly point them out to you
- It's not appreciated to start a new thread when an answer in another thread would do
- Typing in Caps Locks is regarded as permanent yelling and it's rude
- personal topics should be posted on the personal board
- it's not appreciated to publish private emails without asking permission from the other person.

I am sure you can follow this few and simple rules. Have fun.




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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Surely this can't really be Greg Brooks? Can't believe anyone who would write such tripe would be able to work as an archivist for a company such as Queen Productions?

My suspicions were growing, but now I'm convinced that this is not really Greg Brooks


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If it's not the real Greg Brooks then whoever it is should seriously think about asking Queen Productions for a job. With his overly sensitive petty whining he seems suitably qualified.

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually Greg: I don't grovel well - you should know that. Barbara and I have been "friends" for a few years now - so there is no need to grovel - but that's what friends do - support each other.

As you can see from this reply - I wish I had her "Ghandi" like attitute to ignore such posts, but I can't - it's a weakeness, I confess. (But I am trying to overcome it).

Seriously: Why not be constructive? While you are here, why not answer some of the "real questions" fan's would like answered? (A quick look through the threads should provide you with hours worth of positive material).

You could be a real assest. You could answer questions on collectables and unreleased material. (I would be delighted to hear about those), and while the box-sets are out of your control, why not discuss those - rather than pointlessly attack innocent victims with violent verbal attacks?

As I said last week, "I learn so much in here", and we share our collective "knowledge". (Now, please don't insult me by jumping on the "numpty band-wagon"), but if I have given out erroneous information, it is NOT because I have invented it, but because I have read, or "listened to" unofficial sources - or better still (like the "Time" live tracks) I talk from experience. However, in the absence of any official statement - it is the best we have.

With you here - you could set the record straight. You have the power to do so much good.

However, in the absence of any "real" information coming from the Queen camp, I will continue to pass on my "best we have" as the next best alternative.

In the meantime, I still think that the unprovoked attack on YV was pointless and childish - regardless if you think I am grovelling or not.






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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

your points are appreciated. i did not know these rules. i only write in CAP LETTERS to show where my words begin and those i am replying to, end.

i also didn't realise there were subsections of this forum - so i guess i've made 'threads' or 'replies' all over the place - wrongly.

i have now said everything ineed to, so i wil leave you all to debate the various things you spend time debating, and if everything written by GREG BROOKS is actually me or not - which seems a pointless waste of all your members time. It is me. everything i've seen on this site in the last 24 hours, by me, is me. i assure you.

but that can be debated too - if there's nothing else to discuss... which there surely must be.

regards

GB

ps. the person who's identity i gave away, says he is known to you all, so i compromised no trust or netiquette there, i think. if i did, i apologise.


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Richard - this IS the REAL Greg - honest! Be nice and he will send you his e-mail address - because as moderator of the board - he would like to talk to you!


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for clearing that up


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also he confirmed to me last night in email that he had replied here, so yes it is him.

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 10:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And I have no clue which topic to put this in, so I'll just pick this one. This is an email I just sent to Greg:

Hi Greg,

Sometimes Queenzone can be fun, but I'm really shocked by the comments of some of these people I thought I knew. Perhaps they're using this as an opportunity to express their childish jealousy about you.. they see you as a fan like themselves who just got very lucky and now is in a position they'd love to be in.

What they must not realize is what a nice guy you are, how accessible you are, how helpful. For that, they really are missing out.

Queen Productions as a whole is incredibly accessible to fans. We have yourself, Justin, even Brian answering questions and providing information from the most mundane to highly technical.

People like Mr. Stuart don't impress me. His arrogant "and here's some information about something else which will never see the light of day" type nonsense is to me nothing more than an excuse to brag about his supposed collection and inflate his ego with the ass-kissing replies he always gets. No wonder he hangs around with common fans.

A true fan with interesting rare material would first make sure the artist had the best quality copies of everything they needed, whether for release or not, it's Queen's work and for all they've given to the world I think they deserve to have their lost articles returned.

But some are apparently only concerned with the financial side of things and the bragging rights. It's probably an odd analogy but I'm reminded of how Willie Nelson lost so much stuff to an I.R.S. auction, but his true fans bought a great deal of it and promptly returned the items to him. That's the kind of fan-to-artist relationship I'd like to see with Queen. And the doors are certainly open.

Heck, even little old me was able to send you a disc of my editing work for no particular reason, and you were kind enough to listen and comment. It meant a lot to me. And recently I sent Jen a tape of the complete Saturday Night Live show for Brian because she requested it.

But I'm rambling :) I just want you to know that I for one appreciate what you do, and I respect you and Queen Productions. And I'm sorry that some fans just don't get it.

Your friend,

Jeffrey

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Richard Orchard wrote:

I really find it hard to believe this person is "greg brooks".

Therefore, maybe we can all just step back a little.

Richard


Yes Richard, this is Greg. I have no doubts at all about it.

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 11:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jeffrey, There are now so many seperate threads on this subject that it's difficult to keep up with what's going on, but for you to choose this particular thread which is entitled 'SOMEONE PASS ME A SICK BUCKET PLEASE- JOHN STUART IS GROVELLING' really cheered me up.
In all my years I don't think I have ever come across a more pathetic and sychophantic dispaly of crawling up someone's arse. The fact that you posted it in a thread which accuses John of grovelling just made it all the sweeter.
If you ever manage to get your tongue out of Geg Brooks arse, could you answer me one small question?

What in the name of Greek buggery is a Common Queen fan?

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 11:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A serious post by Fatty, now that's something! Have to agree with him though.

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

fatty - you are amusing!

but when someone like Jeffrey is courteous and does not, or maybe does not, agree with your view, this does not equate to arse licking. people can say nice things without being an arse licker - don't you agree?

John Stuart's comments... now THAT IS arse-licking in the extreme. we agree there.

But... you are amusing, if a little misguided.

Say something else funny to this, not something nasty. be clever and whitty, not predictable and boring.

Both Jeffrey and Fatty are constructive, Shame everyone else on this site isn't!!!!

GB


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg - please visit the "Back Chat" thread. Can you give some constructive reply please?


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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

With you here - you could set the record straight. You have the power to do so much good.
Obviously, GB replied to everything but this... Obviously, answering serious questions wasn't GB's intention at all...

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"When someone like Jeffrey is corteous and does not, or maybe does not yet agree with your view, this does not equate to arse licking. People can say nice things without being an arse licker. Don't you agree?"

Yes I agree 110%.

"John Stewart's comments...now THAT IS arse licking in the extreme. We agree there."

Okay for arguments sake let's say I do agree. John called Barbera dignified so lets call him a grovelling, brown-nosed fuckpig. Just for the sake of this argument you understand.

Now let's take another look at Jeffreys display of unbiased and impartial support.

Not only are you a nice guy, you are accessible and helpful. You don't hang around with common fans (my favourite bit) and should the tax man ever declare you bankrupt, don't worry because as happened with Willie Nelson, we will dig deep in our pockets to bail you out. And God bless your little cotton socks that you took the time to listen to a song edited by little ole Jeffrey.

That wasn't grovelling in the slightest now, was it?

So I would like to agree with you but that would make me almost as hypocritical as you are. If you need a sick bucket because John called Barbera dignified, then you'll have to excuse me as I could launch the QE2 on the river of vomit that Jeffrey's post induced.

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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wouldn't expect Greg to answer any questions relating to rare stuff, etc. I think maybe people are forgetting that he has to keep things to himself. He does work work for QP. And the things he sees/hears can't be revealed for varying reasons.

I don't take sides on these issues, but I think people are too quick to jump on Greg. Yes, some badly chosen fights. But there have been some very interesting things over the last 24hours to read on here for a long while.

Peace,
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Posted: 19 Oct 04, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, I didn't want to get into this. But I still find it hard to believe that this is THE Greg Brooks, the Queen archivist.

If it is him, I'm sorry to say that I find him very unprofessional. As a 'Queen-official' this is not the way and not the choise of words to talk to fans. Wether you agree with them or not. A professional would make himself known as for who he is and gives his comments on threats about unreleased tracks and such. If GB would have presented himself and used different language, he would have made sure we would all believe he IS THE Greg Brooks and we would all be very interested in talking to him. Now? Well... if I see what is being said about YV... what will he think of me when I say something...??

Cheers all