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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 17:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A non-worthile for download track but someone asked me for 'Ogre Battle Forgotten Intro', so here it is over my page. Try this link: http://serry.pochtamt.ru/ogre.mp3 (in the window click again for 'serry.pochtamt.ru/ogre.mp3')
I didn't edit it, but there are some breaks that can be edit out. Actually it can be not a BBC session outtake as some bootlegs says (like 'Golden Demos' - that one includes only one demo really 'The Night Comes Down', because it's probably exists in demo version only, the rest of CD are not demos), but just a brief live snippet (for instance from Oxford live soundcheck, 1973) though sounds like studio outtake in bad quality and has no audience noises. Not something you'd like to hear again and again! But anyway as some sources says it's a BBC outtake - let it be, I can't prove or refuse both theories!

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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 19:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, given that the first time I heard it it WAS attached to the BBC Ogre Battle, I'll side with the "BBC Outtake" crowd.

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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 19:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe. GB said it's not. And why then the BBC Ogre Battle sound quality is much better than on it? Though I always thought it's studio outtake, but still not sure.

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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 19:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because Ogre Battle has been released on CD, and that intro is a fifteenth generation taped copy converted to mp3.

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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 19:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh be sure it loses nothing during convertation, trust me :-) Maybe you're right, I ain't telling you're wrong.

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Posted: 23 Oct 04, 19:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope he'd tell us. There's some other things about their BBC situation that I don't know. About different lyrics to 'See What A Fool I've Been', 'We Will Rock You' version etc. Sometimes I think we know much more about their unreleased songs than released ones!

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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 05:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry Funster wrote:

Oh be sure it loses nothing during convertation, trust me :-) Maybe you're right, I ain't telling you're wrong.


Copying again and again a track leads to poor quality sound, that's for sure.


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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry Funster wrote:

GB said it's not.


I think GB has recently lost much of his credibility, if not all of it.


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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Umm... His ambitions and his knowledges are different things to me. Anyway I dunno...

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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 17:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Heh... Well, that means that he changes his opinions so fast...

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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 18:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, 'The so-called Forgotten Intro is just a brief live snippet'... Maybe my English is worst, but I can translate it actually :)

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Posted: 24 Oct 04, 21:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hangman is right. Period.

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Posted: 25 Oct 04, 06:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope so. Because I preffer to have something rare one than a fake one :)

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 02:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder why this conversation didn't stop after Penetration_Guru's post? :-) I think he was more than clear... of course it's the BBC version.

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder too. I didn't ask even if it's BBC or not :) But actually I don't know why most of you are so sure about it, have you seen BBC master tapes or what?

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 10:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No. I have not seen nor heard the BBC master tapes. But Ogre Battle was broadcasted in its unedited form, and I have a (poor) copy of that broadcast (pre-1989).

I know there is also an Ogre Battle acetate from the BBC version but I do not know wheter it has the full version, the AT THE BEEB/BBC edit or yet another edit. Perhaps Ron can spare some light about it.

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, Ron had commented about it on another thread:
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=410097

I quote him: "[...] You might also add the edited Ogre Battle bbc version which is on a Trident 7" acetate (runs 3:04 min). It's not edited in a way as on At The Beeb!"

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 10:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks Wilki!

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Posted: 26 Oct 04, 11:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You are welcome! :-)