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Posted: 27 Oct 04, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, another one question for Queen experts is: all Queen songs since 'The Miracle' album contributed to Queen, although about some ones we can exactly say who wrote this or that song, even 'Let Me Live' which is coming from 'The Works' era, but released much later than 'The Miracle' and because of it stated as 'Queen', but - why does 'Mother Love' then contributes to Brian and Freddie, but not 'Queen'?

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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 03:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A very good question indeed. I'd say, just listen to the song... there is very little John and Roger there in the first place! It seems to be a Brian creation with Freddie's last vocal on it. I'm sure Roger and John didn't mind that their names weren't tagged onto a track they had little to no input on.


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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 05:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think i read somewhere that this was one of the few songs freddie and brian wrote together, and it took a long time to do because it was done when fredie was very ill


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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 07:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH - I am really not sure that Freddie have a lot of works with 'Hijack My Heart' or 'Lost Opportunity', but they does not contributes to Roger and Brian...

It was the last ever recorded Freddie's song (from the released ones), during some summer/autumn 1991 sessions, I guess.

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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger and John hardly did aything in Bijou, for instance, but it`s still credited to the band. So no idea about the Mother Love credit.

As for the song, lyrics are by Freddie (except for the last verse), based on the fact there`s a manuscript by him (and considering how ill he was, I don`t think Brian came up with the lyrics and put Fred to write them as a secretary)


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, so I gotta ask Jacky, if she knows.

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Posted: 28 Oct 04, 16:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry Funster wrote:

Sir GH - I am really not sure that Freddie have a lot of works with 'Hijack My Heart' or 'Lost Opportunity', but they does not contributes to Roger and Brian...


Good point.


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Posted: 29 Oct 04, 17:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, Jacky didn't answer it, so my last hope is... Brian May! Let's try, maybe stars would be lucky for me :)

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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 01:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's my view Brian has gone on record saying that he was furiously writing lyrics for Freddie to sing durung the last sessions. It is essentially a Brian May song more so when you consider he sung the last verse.

Sebastian I don't want to start another aguement but your opinion cannot be taken seriously when you still say that John sang on Queen records through second-hand sources and dubious quotes. For the very last time John NEVER sang on any Queen record. Although I think he played bass.

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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 01:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

May/Mercury, eh? Just like Lennon/MacCartney.


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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 02:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

iGSM wrote:

May/Mercury, eh? Just like Lennon/MacCartney.


I believe it was Lennon/DuBois, or any other common misspelling of McCartney you can muster.

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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 04:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Banquo wrote:

Although I think he played bass.




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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

>Brian has gone on record saying that he was furiously writing lyrics for Freddie to sing durung the last sessions.

He also said he remembers Mother Love as the best collaboration he had with Freddie, along with when they wrote a verse of Show Must Go On.

> when you still say that John sang on Queen records

In which part of this thread did I say that? could it BE any more out of context?

> through second-hand sources

Which exactly?

> and dubious quotes.

They`re such as dubious or strong as any other.

> For the very last time John NEVER sang on any Queen record.

If you know how to use a mouse, you can click in the link in my signature and enter my site. If you know how to look, please tell me in which part of it I say John sings. I don`t say (in the website) that he does, neither I say he doesn`t. I THINK he did, but I don`t have anything mentioning that in my current site. Again, could it be any more out of context?


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 16:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

I believe it was Lennon/DuBois, or any other common misspelling of McCartney you can muster.


No, that's Mitchell/DuBois.

I'll be amazed if anyone here gets that one.


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Posted: 30 Oct 04, 19:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey, I always thought it was all written by Freddie except for that last verse?


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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 01:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rhapsody__87 <small>super!</small> wrote:

Hey, I always thought it was all written by Freddie except for that last verse?


Lyrically yes, the music - besides the melody - must be Brian. More on that later


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 16:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seb, if it's wouldn't be hard for you: can you tell me - is singing Roger back-vocal in 'The Great Pretender' or there is just Freddie's BV?
(I don't want to start new topic with just this one question)

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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 17:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger helped Freddie with the song. Dunno where I read that. Was some German article. Have to check my library...


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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I know. He filmed in the video and probably sang BVs, but I'd like to know it for sure.

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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 17:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Found the article. It is from the German magazine "Metal Attack" from April 1991. It is a special edition about Queen's 20th anniversary. The following excerpt is about Roger's solo stuff in 1987:

"[...],doch alles, was er tatsächlich unternahm, war das Einsingen von Freddies 'Great Pretender'-Single."


in English it would be:

"[...] but all he [Roger] really did was singing for Freddies single 'Great Pretender'.



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