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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 01:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm sure it's been discussed before, but why are there sooo many demos of this song? It appears as if there are at least 10 different versions of this floating around. Does anyone know the difference, and can anyone tell me which is the closest to a complete finished song?


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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 05:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i've counted (and collected) seven.
but at least two appear to be completely diferent arrangements
and one is a rough recording - with studio background noise
and at least one other sounds like a different song
will look into my copies and report back


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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 07:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have no idea, why there are 7 versions.

Since they are all the same version, But each one is in better, or worse quality. Or recorded at the convention.


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Posted: 31 Oct 04, 16:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not sure about 10 or 7. There are very few different versions (I guess 2 or 3) and the rest of them are fakes.

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Posted: 01 Nov 04, 05:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Two different version exsist of this song. One is a complete 3 min. version (there are many fakes of this), the other is just an improvvisation, better in quality but shorter. See also Queenpicturehall.




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Posted: 01 Nov 04, 06:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have one that is 3.02 but only 1.39mb. Maybe I have the full version in a low quality?


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Posted: 01 Nov 04, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

okay i've come back with some info (promised i would)
so here goes:-
take1: 3:06 distorted/loud, recording level very high, clapped intro
take2: clear talk intro, average qual
take3: 3:10 rougher version but very clear freddie spoken intro
take4: 3:00 very poor qual, no spoken intro ends suddenly on guitar note
take7: 2:36 best recording, five seconds same talk, but quiet
part1: 2:10 totally different song sounds like a cross between feelings,feelings and see what a fool - showing my ignorance here - should know what this is
part2: 2:54 very poor quality

all in all - i reckon these are all from the same take but just recorded by different means - ie the clear freddie talking obv off soundboard - weheras the quieter spoken intros were someone's (ahem) "home recording"



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Posted: 01 Nov 04, 23:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are just TWO versions:
1) Feelings - introduction / Silver Salmon (take #4?) 2:08 (full original recording - time varies according to the source).
2) Silver Salmon (take #5?) 3:06 (full: starts with chat, ends with a snippet of the Seven Seas Of Rhye piano introduction - time also varies according to the source).
Hope this helps.

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Posted: 02 Nov 04, 01:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have a version of 3:03 minutes. It start's with a heavy guitar.

Wich version is this?


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Posted: 02 Nov 04, 02:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good to see we all agree :)

Now it's clear as mud :)

I have one that also starts with heavy guitar and mine ends at 3.02 but it sounds cut off. I'll chase the soundboard one I think.


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 15:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you mean "just the rhythm"?

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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bitesthedust wrote:

you mean "just the rhythm"? I had the other version to begin with, but the sound was awful so I replaced it.


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you mean "just the rhythm"? I had the other version to begin with, but the sound was awful so I replaced it.

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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 18:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sorry my bad english but...i have played drums and one thing makes me wonder if silver salmon demo is from 71. there is part where roger taylor plays high sounded tom tom's. he started use those somewhere between a day at the races / Jazz records.