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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 08:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie started to work on 'Mr Bad Guy' album at 1983 and 'Love Kills' for 'Metropolis' was recorded at the same time and was released as a single at 1984. 'Foolin' Around' was recorded and released as well during same period (as a song for 'Teachers' film, by the way first two Freddie's solo songs, besides Larry Lurex project, were written for movies! And later there were 'Hold On', 'Time' soundtrack, 'The Great Pretender' - seems as Freddie's solo music is very welcome for movies/musicals) and it's on 'Mr Bad Guy' album, but 'Love Kills' - not.
So why 'Love Kills' couldn't be include to the album as well as 'Foolin' Around' did?

I know that someone would say that 'it were two very different projects', 'Foolin' Around' came much later than 'Love Kills' etc., but Freddie even used for the album 'There Must Be More To Life Than This' which was written probably at 1982/83 and recorded before by Jackson, by Queen, so why LK is out?

Queen recorded and released 'One Vision' before the rest of AKOM songs as their tribute to 'Live Aid' but it's on the album, though they could leave it as well as they did with 'Thank God It's A Christmas'. And IMHO when 'One Vision' were recording there were not any plans for the next album.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Great Pretender wasn't recorded for a movie.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 10:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dont know for definite but the two most likely possibilities would be...

1.Copyright issues. It may not have been possible to get clearance to use the song on the album.

2.It could quite simply be that Freddie didnt want the song on the album or there just wasnt room? He'd recorded all this new material and if space was an issue then it would make sense to leave off the song that was already the most widely available.

This is the best I can come up with and I suspect one of these 2 reasons to be the most likely, can anyone verify?

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 11:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought it was because "Love Kills" was so disco and they were trying to get away from that after the Hot Space experience.

However, the projects were somewhat intertwined in that the Radio Ga Ga video ended up using footage from Metropolis, the "Love Kills" movie.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 12:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sorry - it wasn't mostly disco
made in heaven
mr bad guy
man made paradise
LMLTNT
foolin around
your kinda lover

these are not disco - have never seen, and couldn't imagine anyone dancing to them


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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remember reading somewhere that all of Queen were going to contribute to Metropolis, in exchange for the material used in GaGa. Somehow they couldn't make it, so Freddie did a song by himself.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 13:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


I thought it was because Freddie co-wrote Love Kills and wanted Mr Bad Guy to be fully written by himself.




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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know Moroder received a co-writing credit for Love Kills, but I really believe his input was minimal, aside from production. You can see in the FM box set many scraps of paper with lyrics for Love Kills, in various states of completion.
Plus, before Moroder ever had his hands on the song, Freddie had worked with at least Brian and Roger, and possibly John, on it. I think the co-writing credit was just a pre-requisite for the song being on the Metropolis soundtrack.


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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pim Derks wrote:

The Great Pretender wasn't recorded for a movie.


That one was used in the movie and I didn't write that it was written for movie, just because Freddie didn't wrote it actually! :) As I said his solo tracks were welcome for movies very much.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 15:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Philipp Nothaft wrote:

They really are different projects.

Love Kills was especially recorded (with Giorgio Moroder as producer) for the movie.
Foolin' Around was recorded for the MBG-album (proper sessions for the MBG-album didn't really start before 1984; TMBMTLTT may have existed before, but it was re-recorded for MBG), it was merely used for Teachers, not exclusively produced for it, I think.

Another important factor may be that Love Kills features the other 75 % (or maybe 50 %) of Queen. However, Freddie didn't want any Queen-involvement on his album (see his comment on the sleeve-notes).


It's very much possible + some other above reasons.

But anyway some demos of 'I Was Born To Love You' came from 1983, but it's not so important in this case.

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Posted: 04 Nov 04, 18:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Love Kills was originally a Moroder song. Freddie re-wrote it and then it was recorded by QUEEN. So it could be copyright issues or simply that Freddie did not want any direct QUEEN involvement on his album (remember She Blows Hot And Cold).

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Posted: 05 Nov 04, 09:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it's very close to the truth. Freddie wanted to make his true solo album, so no co-authors, no any Brian/Roger/John sounds on it. Much than possible!

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Posted: 05 Nov 04, 17:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who actually played on "She blows hot and cold" ? Is it Brian on guitars? Sounds to me like that..


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Posted: 05 Nov 04, 17:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

On 'Mr Bad Guy' it was Paul Vincent and on unreleased ('till the FM Box Set release) version - Brian.