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Posted: 10 Nov 04, 20:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ive watched a lot of Queen concerts including the new Queen On Fire concert, and i've noticed Freddie interacts with Brian and Roger regularly but never John, is there a reason for this?

My opinion is John is very shy and didn't want Freddie gallobanting around him in public.

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Posted: 10 Nov 04, 21:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I noticed that John hangs around Roger's drums a lot on stage. He bops around and they smile at each other...kinda cool.


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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 02:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

indeed, but uhm...I've actually seen them interact quite a lot of times


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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 04:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've seen them interact a lot, too. So nothing to worry about.

By the way, it's natural that he steps onto Rogs drumriser a lot - Bass and Drums form the basis of the song, so they have to be tight and really understand each other without words. Being a bassist myself, I keep frequent eye-contact with our drummer as well.
John Paul Jones and Bonzo (watch "The song remains the same") are maybe the archetypical rock rythm-section, but John and Rog come close in terms of tightness.


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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 07:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would suggest that their relationship was perhaps stronger than any of the others in the band. John was the last member to join and, like Freddie, had not been around "since the beginning". If you look at early live shows, Freddie is constantly "playing" with John (which was a great way to alleviate John's shyness). When John felt more at ease on stage in later years, there was less need for the by-play between the two.

Add to that the fact that Queen were then playing more of John's songs which would also have given him more piece of mind.......

As for the archetypal rythm section, you need look no frther than Keith Moon and John Entwistle - the two greatest free-form players on their instruments that were soley responsible for grounding the most explosive band in history.


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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with Benn. But remember almost every great rock band has to have the bass player in synch with the drummer that why JD always stood along side RT.

They had to play in synch otherwise the whole band would be "off".

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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John Deacon is shy, but he's such a nice person. Freddie doesn't quite often interact with John on stage. But they could find it well with each other. They went to Japan together on holiday, I believe and they wrote songs together ;-).

For me Queen consisted of 2 strong couples:

Roger and Brian
Freddie and John


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Posted: 11 Nov 04, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, why don't you ask why doesn't John interact with Freddie??

But answering your question I'd say: maybe John didn't wanted it and asked Freddie about? I dunno, but why not?

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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 03:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

er yes,and the stiffest interaction between Brian and John is during Dragon Attack, seen on the WWRY DVD. ;-))


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 05:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Have they had an argument together thatv we don't know about? Yet, they both wrote Friends Will Be Friends and Pain Is So Close To Pleasure.


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 06:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well, i think he DOES interact with John... i mean, that "go, johnny, go!" thing....



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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 07:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

" Why doesn't Freddie interact with John Deacon "

Maybe because one of them has been dead for the past 13 years ;)


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 08:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They interact real well during Liar. I dont know about the '82 performances of Liar. They didn't interact with each other during '84's version of Liar (AS IT IS PLAIN CRAP).

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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie and John collaborated on three songs together:
Cool Cat
Pain Is So Close to Pleasure
Friends Will Be Friends

John was the worst devastated out of the three members when Freddie passed away. John and Freddie were very close. Roger and Brian have known each other and played together since 1967 in Smile.


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 16:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Kevo wrote:

" Why doesn't Freddie interact with John Deacon "

Maybe because one of them has been dead for the past 13 years ;)


Fuck, I was going to write this.

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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 17:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NOTWMEDDLE wrote:

Freddie and John collaborated on three songs together:
Cool Cat
Pain Is So Close to Pleasure
Friends Will Be Friends

John was the worst devastated out of the three members when Freddie passed away. John and Freddie were very close. Roger and Brian have known each other and played together since 1967 in Smile.


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 20:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

Kevo wrote:

" Why doesn't Freddie interact with John Deacon "

Maybe because one of them has been dead for the past 13 years ;)


Fuck, I was going to write this.


I left it open for a punchline about John.....

And the other died of AIDS in 1991... ;)


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 20:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

*walks off with Kevo's coat*

I found it amusing the Taylor-May interview on Live at the Bowl where Roger told Brian to shaddup..

Except I didn't approve of when Brian started to rap God Save the Queen...shocking, shocking, shocking.


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Posted: 12 Nov 04, 22:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I Think It's because John Is Shy, But Off The Stage hey Were Friends. they Spent Hollydays Together And Wrote Songs together.









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Posted: 13 Nov 04, 09:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Perhaps John was too ugly for Freddie to notice him :)...


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