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Posted: 25 Nov 04, 20:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have never really been bowled over by nu metal but Greendays new album has beaten me down with a stick. Im absolutely loving american idiot and boulevard.
Just wondering where everyone else stands with nu metal right now?


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Posted: 25 Nov 04, 21:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A big thumbs down. Although American Idiot does remind me of some people.


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Posted: 25 Nov 04, 21:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hate nu metal... I heard american idiot, stopped for a second thinking, "Oh, that'ss clever." Shrugged and ignored it. I mean, its clever, thats all it really is. The "genre" just makes me shudder and turns the look on my face sour... which is probablyu why i dont listen to music from the western half of the planet much anymore.


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Posted: 25 Nov 04, 21:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agreed. It's certainly good that there's an American band saying 'Wait a second. This country is a bit fucked in the head at the moment'. I'm sure there's more. I suffer from selective hearing though.


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Posted: 26 Nov 04, 03:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wouldn't consider Green Day nu metal.
They've been around for more than 10 years now.

I've never really liked that kind of punk rock, like Green Day and Offspring, etc but I love their new album. I think they've grown a lot. Look at their last albums, look at Dookie, that's the ultimate fun punk album.

But hearing Billie Joe say that they're almost in the same league as The Clash and other legends makes me laugh out loud. They may be on the right way though but I don't believe they'll ever get that far.


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Posted: 26 Nov 04, 04:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

heh, Greenday and Blink 182, ha. They're just good as The Clash, the Cure and The Ramones *Sarcas-o-Tron explodes*


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Posted: 26 Nov 04, 08:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greenday isn't "nu metal" to begin with.

I prefer the term "unbearable rubbish" or "whiney crap" over "nu metal". I fail to hear the "metal" part in those bands.





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Posted: 26 Nov 04, 09:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pma is right... Green Day is absolutely not NuMetal, but rather NuPunk.

NuMetal bands are those shitty ones that mix rap with metal, like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, or Korn.

An about American Idiot, it's one hell of a great album, without a doubt one of the best albums that have come out in 2004. To me the album is even better than 'Dookie', the album that launched then into stardom back in 1994.


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Posted: 26 Nov 04, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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heh, Greenday and Blink 182, ha. They're just good as The Clash, the Cure and The Ramones *Sarcas-o-Tron explodes*


As Sonja mentioned, Green Day is still on it's way to gain the status of bands like The Clash, and The Ramones.

But I know that those guys are far better than The Cure.


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Posted: 27 Nov 04, 00:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do have to say that I believe their quality of music has declined dramatically since the release of Dookie...


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Posted: 27 Nov 04, 04:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="red">Queen23 wrote:

I didn't think they were any sort of metal but rather pop-punk. I think some of their music will be considered timeless one day and will be listened to even after 20 years or so.


Nope! I think they'll be forgotten in about 20 years time... none of these newer bands will be listened to or spoken about in 20 years.
There are no legends anymore.
Robbie Williams may remain unforgettable in Europe but that's all really.
Bands like U2 and REM will be remembered.
Maybe Eminem as well.
But I can't think of anyone else...
well.. Britney! definitely. She won't be forgotten!


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Posted: 27 Nov 04, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They all play too damn fast for me...It will never be considered metal...


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Posted: 27 Nov 04, 16:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is no such thing as nu metal. All metal died at the turn of the decade, when we entered an era only known as "the 90's". Joy.


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Posted: 27 Nov 04, 18:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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STOP CATERGERISING! AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!


Why?


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Posted: 28 Nov 04, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sonja wrote:

I wouldn't consider Green Day nu metal.
They've been around for more than 10 years now.

I've never really liked that kind of punk rock, like Green Day and Offspring, etc but I love their new album. I think they've grown a lot. Look at their last albums, look at Dookie, that's the ultimate fun punk album.

But hearing Billie Joe say that they're almost in the same league as The Clash and other legends makes me laugh out loud. They may be on the right way though but I don't believe they'll ever get that far.


I couldn't agree more!


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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 20:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Linda Of The Valley wrote:

Greenday are good...who cares what they're categerised as? New album is great and their older stuff is good too. Thumbs up for me.

-'Ooh Greenday aren't punk, greenday arent metal.'

Well boo fucking hoo
:-)


Yeah, sorry guys. They call themselves numetal, but yes they are punky. this is kinda a avril lavinge dilema. She calls herself punk, I call her puke.


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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, metal is kind of broad, so I can see how some punk can categorize into it. There are many overlappings between genres.


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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 01:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=000000>Music Man</font> wrote:

Well, metal is kind of broad, so I can see how some punk can categorize into it. There are many overlappings between genres.


Yeah, definitely. The word "rock" is the broadest term we have these days for music. It is the only genre where almost anything can be integrated or removed, and it can still be itself. You can't say the same for virtually every other genre, as they all have certain elements; without such elements, they would no longer be themselves.

Dance has the beat, punk has the power-chord guitar work, polka has the accordian, etc.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 00:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the clash did much better in '77 W/LONDON CALLING
I dont think green days' music will hold up 27 yrs.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 09:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Green Day has prooved with their new album that their own their way to becoming a legend of punk music of the same level of 'The Clash' or 'The Ramones'.

Only time will tell if they will be able to hold up to the expectations.


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