Forums > Queen - Serious Discussion > Under Pressure High Note.

forum rss feed
Author

n707pa user not visiting Queenzone.com

Be Gentle, I'm a newbie: 9 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 26 Nov 04, 23:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Both times I saw David live, his bass player hit the high note in Under Pressure both times. That part where Freddie says Why? Did Freddie ever hit it live?

Sebastian user not visiting Queenzone.com
Sebastian
Deity: 6326 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 04:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fred didn`t, at least in the versions I`ve heard, and I guess, rather than know, that he wouldn`t risk his throat that early on stage (but he did sing even higher notes in Impromptu so perhaps he also gave it a try).

As for David`s bassplayer, I think she hits the note one octave lower


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
Daburcor? user not visiting Queenzone.com
Daburcor?
Deity: 9478 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 07:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

As for David`s bassplayer, I think she hits the note one octave lower
I think you're right... It doesn't sound quite the same.


"Elton John and I became really good friends. I don't mean 'good friends' in that sense. I just mean we slept together." -Billy Joel
Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 08:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you try to hit a very high note during the first part of a concert, you might ruin your vocal chords for the rest of the concert and your voice could keep on cracking like Milton Keynes Fat bottomed girls "in this locality" section...
Did you ever drive to work early in the morning and sang along a Queen song with full capacity, and wondered why you had a sore throat the whole day???




Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
n707pa user not visiting Queenzone.com

Be Gentle, I'm a newbie: 9 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 12:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I heard gail sing, It sounds likes she hits it. Mind you I've only seen it done twice but I've heard about 50 bootlegs. Gail is amazing.

Adam Baboolal user not visiting Queenzone.com
Adam Baboolal
Deity: 4986 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 16:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not impossible to do as I have done it myself. But it's a rare thing.

Scirocco1977 wrote:


Did you ever drive to work early in the morning and sang along a Queen song with full capacity, and wondered why you had a sore throat the whole day???


Not the same thing. That's because you didn't "warm up" properly. How do you think singers get up on radio or tv early in the morning and deliver fine vocals? And it won't ruin your vocals for the rest of the day.
Think of it like this:

What happened to Bruce Lee when he didn't warm up before lifting weights? He strained his back so bad that he was partially disabled for a long time after that. Same thing with your vocal cords. Don't treat them right and you're going to cause damage for an uncertain period of time.

Peace,
Adam.

RockitPJ user not visiting Queenzone.com

Champion: 58 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 27 Nov 04, 20:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie reaches this note in the studio because he uses his "falsetto" voice to reach it. The only time I recall Freddie using a "falsetto" voice live was during the intro of "Hard Life" during the Rockin Rio gig.


"If I look half as good to you people as you do to me, I must look good."
The Real Wizard user not visiting Queenzone.com
The Real Wizard
Deity: 18618 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 00:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

...also in the earliest versions of In The Lap Of The Gods Revisited (Magic tour versions too) and You Take My Breath Away.


"The more generous you are with your music, the more it comes back to you." -- Dan Lampinski



http://www.queenlive.ca
NOTWMEDDLE user not visiting Queenzone.com
NOTWMEDDLE
Bohemian: 691 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 02:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

RockitPJ wrote:

Freddie reaches this note in the studio because he uses his "falsetto" voice to reach it. The only time I recall Freddie using a "falsetto" voice live was during the intro of "Hard Life" during the Rockin Rio gig.


Usually Freddie sang the there's no reason for living line in a low octave!


"Spread your wings and fly away, fly away, far away!", "No one makes me sing lullabies and no one makes me close my eyes"
RockitPJ user not visiting Queenzone.com

Champion: 58 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 08:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You are all right, he did use his falsetto voice frequently during live shows, but for whatever reason he didn't during Under Pressure to reach that High note during "Why". I think it would have sounded great! Freddie was the best at using
his falsetto voice and full range during the same song. It makes me cringe whe I hear other singers try to do it!


"If I look half as good to you people as you do to me, I must look good."
Sebastian user not visiting Queenzone.com
Sebastian
Deity: 6326 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 08:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Under Pressure was one of the "biggies", so if Fred had some problem and did the wrong note he could ruin a special moment of the concert (unlike Impromptu which was... just that). So it was safer to do one octave lower. Roger did sing an equally high note every night of 1975 during Lap Of The Gods


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
Little_Queenie user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 558 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 11:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Scirocco1977 wrote:

If you try to hit a very high note during the first part of a concert, you might ruin your vocal chords for the rest of the concert and your voice could keep on cracking like Milton Keynes Fat bottomed girls "in this locality" section...
Did you ever drive to work early in the morning and sang along a Queen song with full capacity, and wondered why you had a sore throat the whole day???



I don't think it was such a big risk, and as someone said, Freddie always warmed up his voice before the concert.. Further, it was a falsetto, and it's really not so hard to hit that exact note for anyone who has naturally high voice, and Freddie definitely had.


Give me a good guitar, and you can say that my hair's a disgrace, oh, just find me an open car - I'll make the speed of light out of this place...
meemoe user not visiting Queenzone.com

Rocker: 30 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 17:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, in the Stuttgart (Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle) - 27.9.1984 (which you can Download here) during the high note part, Freddie goes WHYYY?!? in normal tone, then he goes into a a high "woooooooooh" with the echo thing


Queen
mr mercury user not visiting Queenzone.com
Adam who?????
mr mercury
Deity: 4630 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 17:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally I am not too bothered that he didnt go for the high note. I like the fact that he often didnt sing the songs as they appeared on the albums as to me it meant that he could put a different emotion into the song on the night.


"Normally i can't dance to save my life.

But as soon as I step in dog shit, I can moonwalk better than Michael Jackson."
RockitPJ user not visiting Queenzone.com

Champion: 58 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 28 Nov 04, 21:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I second that HeM, why pay to hear the studio version at a concert?
But it's always nice to hear Freddie hit the high notes now and then!


"If I look half as good to you people as you do to me, I must look good."
Jjeroen user not visiting Queenzone.com

Deity: 4781 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 29 Nov 04, 05:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Back to Bowie for this one ;-)

Gail Ann Dorsey indeed reaches the note. I've seen Bowie dozens of times for the last almost fifteen years and collected as much bootlegs. So I have lots of live-rendition heard and in collection of his UP live-version.
He's been playing it with Gail Ann ever since the first Outside tour in 1995. But it was only until his last years Reality Tour that Gail's high note came to full growth. This time around she not only hits the high note, on more then one occasion she even made it one more octave HIGHER! You think she's there, but what the F***... she's pushing it even further! Honestly: thé goose-bums moment of many Reality-show!!

Now, back to reality... ;-) Of course Gail Ann is absolutely great wonderfull and more. But when you listen to some bootlegs of the Reality tour, no-one can deny hearing that there was indeed some electronic pitching in there. She hits the note, but she's using a pitch to get there in a clean note and to allow her to switch to headvoice without listeners realy noticing.

redyfredy01 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 141 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 29 Nov 04, 19:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Queen23 wrote:
I'm not sure if he did hit it high, I know Freddie speak sings the song alot though when live.



I agree, he did speak sing alot didn't he? I have a live C.D. and i had never heard that C.D. before, but i know the songs from other C.D.s i have but i was singing along, and all of a sudden, freddie starts speaking the words instead of singing it. I was so angry that they mest up the song.


I am not obsessed, I just have a one-track mind. (Obessed people go to counceling.)
NOTWMEDDLE user not visiting Queenzone.com
NOTWMEDDLE
Bohemian: 691 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 01 Dec 04, 03:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jeroen wrote:

Back to Bowie for this one ;-)

Gail Ann Dorsey indeed reaches the note. I've seen Bowie dozens of times for the last almost fifteen years and collected as much bootlegs. So I have lots of live-rendition heard and in collection of his UP live-version.
He's been playing it with Gail Ann ever since the first Outside tour in 1995. But it was only until his last years Reality Tour that Gail's high note came to full growth. This time around she not only hits the high note, on more then one occasion she even made it one more octave HIGHER! You think she's there, but what the F***... she's pushing it even further! Honestly: thé goose-bums moment of many Reality-show!!

Now, back to reality... ;-) Of course Gail Ann is absolutely great wonderfull and more. But when you listen to some bootlegs of the Reality tour, no-one can deny hearing that there was indeed some electronic pitching in there. She hits the note, but she's using a pitch to get there in a clean note and to allow her to switch to headvoice without listeners realy noticing.


His ex-guitarist Reeves Gabriels used to hit ear splitting notes as he would play extremely higher than normal notes on his guitar. The Whammy pedal works wonders doesn't it.


"Spread your wings and fly away, fly away, far away!", "No one makes me sing lullabies and no one makes me close my eyes"
NOTWMEDDLE user not visiting Queenzone.com
NOTWMEDDLE
Bohemian: 691 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 01 Dec 04, 03:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the_hero wrote:

Live in Montreal '82 from the DVD "We will rock you" it's on of the first times he did it live.


Actually, it was 1981 when WWRY was shot.


"Spread your wings and fly away, fly away, far away!", "No one makes me sing lullabies and no one makes me close my eyes"
Fenderek user not visiting Queenzone.com

Deity: 4924 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 01 Dec 04, 08:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=darkred><b>HeM</b></font> wrote:

I thought Freddie warmed his voice enough to reach how many high notes he wanted...
Show me one live version of We Are The Champions when Fred hit all the high notes...