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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seen on Billboard.com:

Edited by Thomas Walker - November 13, 9:05 PM ET

The world of rock and roll has always been an incestuous one, and now things seem to be getting worse. After a long courtship, Brit popsters Oasis have announced that Zak Starkey will be manning the drum stool for 2005. Zak of course, is the son of former Beatle Ringo Starr, (whose music has long shaped the image of Oasis), and
former drummer with the latest incarnation of classic rock act The Who.

Starkey's departure translates into yet another change behind the kit for guitarist Pete Townshend and vocalist Roger Daltrey, as
they have engaged in a Spinal Tap-esque game of drummers du jour since the passing of Keith Moon in 1978. Adding to The Who's staffing misfortunes is the confirmation that fill-in bassist Pino
Palladino will supplant John Deacon in Queen, effective immediately.

As the futures of Oasis and Queen look to be in place, focus now falls firmly on The Who. The twin defections come at a precarious time for the group as a long rumored album of new material is slated for release in the Spring. While various names have been circulated as replacements for Starkey and Palladino, sources close to Townshend acknowledge a short list of "probable candidates" has been hastily assembled, contingent upon availability.

It is reported that Mick Fleetwood and Ian Paice, formerly of Fleetwood Mac and Deep Purple respectively, stand at the forefront for drum duties, while the bassist highest on the list is Jeff Ament of Pearl Jam fame. No date has
been established for final staffing decisions, but the Townshend camp is said to be hopeful that the new line-up will be confirmed by Christmas.


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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting. At first, I thought it said that Deacon was going to play bass for The Who. I had to reread it a few times before I got it.

However, I think this may just be another rumor. I found this on The Who's website about a week ago:

Rumours that Pino Palladino and Zak Starkey are going to discontinue working with the Who in the future are not true. All great musicians like Zak and Pino work with a wide range of artists. They are in constant demand and obviously eager to expand their musical boundaries. However, the work they do together under the Who banner has a special and unique place in their life and one that they value musically the most.

They are regarded by Roger Daltrey, Pete Townshend and myself, and I am sure by the majority of their fans, as important pivotal members of the incredible touring band still billed as the Who. At no time have Roger and Pete considered using any other musicians to record or tour with. We all feel we still have much to offer and achieve as a group and were looking forward to completing an album for eventual release next year.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

deacon is retired

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

just rumors, no one is playing bass for queen, trust me.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

just rumors, no one is playing bass for queen, trust me.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zak was supposed to be touring with Robert Plant and Jimmy Page in next year's Led Zeppelin tour...or so I thought, until I read this....
Zak in Oasis? Imagine the fistfights!! Hair flying all over the place! Noel and Liam in jail!
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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One question: who is Pino Palladino??

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

no idea, good question

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pino Palladino is a session bassist who recorded with Daltrey and Townshend on some of their solo stuff, as well as with David Gilmour of Pink Floyd fame.

When John Entwistle died in June 2002, a call was placed to Pino from Vegas to Philadelphia, asking him if he could play bass for The Who on their tour, which was to start the day after Entwistle's death. He agreed, and flew out for some pretty intensive rehearsals, considering the tour was restarted three days later.

He did a great job considering Entwistle's extreme talent, and he also recorded some new songs with The Two--er, The Who. I hope he and Zak stay on, as they seem to have all finally gelled as a group, turning into The Who Mark 75 or whatever they're at now.

And, as far as I know, Zak was never going to play drums with Page & Plant - I'm sure they'd rather get Bonzo's son Jason instead.

Oasis don't deserve Zak.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 21:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ringo's record producer, Mark Hudson, was at a Beatles convention that I helped organise last month and during the Forum discussion he was asked about Ringo's children, and that's when I found out about Zak joining Page and Plant.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 22:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

good grief, I am cringing at the thought of all this talk. I think they ought to hurry up and release that boxed set for the fans, before the memory of Queen is destroyed by all these collaborations and WWRY versions !!!!
*teddy shudders at the thought of what may happen*

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 22:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes, did i hear box sets, that's what i'm waiting for, any unreleased freddie songs worth hearing will be on those box sets, if brian and roger release anything new they could also be released on them, it's a perfect excuse to record new material without having to make a whole new album, just put them on the box set and be done with it.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 22:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes, did i hear box sets, that's what i'm waiting for, any unreleased freddie songs worth hearing will be on those box sets, if brian and roger release anything new they could also be released on them, it's a perfect excuse to record new material without having to make a whole new album, just put them on the box set and be done with it.

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Posted: 29 Nov 04, 23:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Um...HELLO?! What are you talking about Zak playing with Page and Plant? Did I hear JONES too??!! Are you joking??!! I understood all three were doing solo albums and tours next year?! What's going on here?!

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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 03:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pino Palladino played bass on the recent UK Hall of Fame performance with Brian, Roger and Paul Rodgers, that's all.


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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 13:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats funny I could swear I saw a band playing on the UK Hall of Fame with the name "Queen" on their drum set. Seems like they exist to me...

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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 13:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pino also played with Queen at Party In The Palace no?


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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 14:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For crying out loud! As much many of you bitch and moan, Brian and Roger have and ARE going to continue using the name "Queen". If you dont like it I suggest you deal with it, cause your incessant whining is not going to change anything.

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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 14:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like Zak Starkey.


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Posted: 30 Nov 04, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love Ringo too!! :-))
A lot of us are taking things way too seriously about the simple name of QUEEN. It's a trademark; it's the name that will sell CDs and tickets, not May, Taylor, Etc or Half Of Queen or (ugh) Queen +. It's a name thing with Brian and Roger, it's the last hallmark of how things once were (notice I said "were", not "are") and the link to the past. In a strange way, for people to recognise them they HAVE to use it, even though Freddie's been dead well over a decade and John Deacon's been retired almost that long.
We will simply have to accept their judgement; for it's all of us supporting them by buying their CDs and DVDs. If we weren't, then how would things look for QUEEN? Rather bleak, I'm afraid.
If they will embarrass themselves by using that trademark, let them -- it's theirs to use so we can gripe more about how not politically-correct they are using it with half of the group technically gone.