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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 15:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my history class, out teacher wants us to bring in a song that shows the social attitudes during a certain era or time..something that reflect social conflict or issues...I want to bring in a Queen song but, I am not sure what to bring in...I was thinking of Hammer to Fall because it supposedly represents the fall of communism..I'm not sure...any suggestions?


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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 16:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

HtF is great, also...
Put Out the Fire - gun control, Lennon's murder
White Man - the overtaking of native lands
Seaside Rendezvous - a big date...OK maybe not


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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 16:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is This The World We Created - The poorness in Africa in the middle eighties (Think of Life AID).

Queen wasn't a band who projected a strong political message... It would be hard to find more songs.





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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 16:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So maybe Roger's "Nazis" ?


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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 19:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Working Class Hero though it's not Queen song...
Well, maybe Roger's Revelation?

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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 20:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some non-Queen propositions:

Scorpions- "Wind Of Change"
Sex Pistols- "God Save The Queen"
Sex Pistols- "Anarchy In The UK"
Manic Street Preachers "A Design For Life"
and most of the U2 songs ;-)


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Posted: 10 Dec 04, 20:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hammer to fall:

Toe your line and play their game yeah
Let the anaesthetic cover it all
Till one day they call your name
You know it's time for the hammer to fall

Rich or poor or famous
For your truth it's all the same (oh no oh no)
Lock your door the rain is pouring
Through your window pane (oh no)
Baby now your struggle's all in vain

For we who grew up tall and proud
In the shadow of the mushroom cloud
Convinced our voices can't be heard
We just wanna scream it louder and louder louder




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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 00:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the suggestions...Now I'm deciding between "Hammer to Fall" and "Is this the World We Created"....I might also consider "White Man"



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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 02:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

White Man. "Man learned how to teach, then forgot how to learn." One of Brian's best lyrics. "You build your muscles as your body decays" from Hammer is also great.

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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 13:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think I will use "Is this the World we Created" because it reflects the time very well..but, did Brian ever mention that "Hammer to Fall" was about communism?....it does represent the age of nuclear weapons very well too...both are very good songs...thank you very much for the suggestions...


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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the ghost of tom joad-bruce springsteen

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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love White Man, it's a great and powerful song, good lyrics. One of my favourites. You should try this one. Good luck.
What is left of your dreams?
Just the words on your stone
A man who learned how to teach
Then forget how to learn. Oh Yeah!


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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

White, Discussion by Live

I talk of freedom
You talk of the flag
I talk of revolution
You'd much rather brag
And as the decibels of this disenchanting
Discourse, continue to dampen the day
The coin flips again, and again, and again,
And again as our sanity walks away

All this discussion
Though politically correct
Is dead beyond destruction
Though it leaves me quite erect
And as the final sunset rolls behind the Earth
And the clock is finally dead
I'll look at you, you'll look at me
And we'll cry a lot
But this will be what we said
This will be what we said

I warned you,
I prepared you,
I instructed you,
I told you what to expect
All the times and seasons...

Look where all this talking got us, baby!

You, yourselves know perfect
That the day so cometh...



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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hammer To Fall is about nuclear war, not Commusnism really. But it is still a great example of an era. But it was written after the event so maybe it doesn't fit quite in the context of the question. I would suggest Is This The World We Created? Perfect example.


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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think I might choose "Is this the World we Created"...but, "White Man" might be a good one too since we're learning about the civil war...hmm..tough decision...but I think I'll stick to "Is this the World we Created"..


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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 16:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen does not have many political songs to choose from...and I'm not going to list them when everyone has listed them at LEAST five times. If you decide not to go with a Queen song, the best 'political songs' can be found with Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, John Lennon, and so much more. 'Working Class Hero' is actually a John Lennon song too.
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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 16:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know all those other people have political songs..but people in my class know who they are...everyone will probably pick a beatle song but..will they pick a Queen one? It'll be nice for people in my school to listen to something different for once and not always associate Queen with "We will Rock You"....but, it's actually quite suprising in my school that some people know quite a few things about Queen...anyways..thanks for the suggestions and advice my fellow queenzoners!


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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 17:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lenningrad is a gooood song.
The times they are a changin is awesome, but I agree with you. Someone is bound to choose it. But there are other Dylan songs that would be great too, if you can get them.

Who Killed Davey Moore (why and what's the reason for?)
However political, it might not pertain to a specific era you're teacher might be asking for.

Universal soldier, but I'm sure you have heard of that one?!

Well, good luck with it.
*considering the imbeciles of today, if you were to choose The times they are a changin, I'm sure the only one (besides yourself) that would know it would be the teacher, lol. I once did a research on music and its cultural impact....and no one knew it! except the middle aged man who smelled like beer and marijuana, but that is expected, lol.*
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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh wait.....
If you can get a hold of this song, it would be really good.

"Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues" is by Bob Dylan. Use it (that is, if you cannot find a Queen song). It makes fun of the 50's McCarthyism and communist scare, but is still highly political. For anyone who knows about it, McCarthyism was horrible here in the States. The worst thing to be called would be a communist, and horrible things would follow. So yeah....

Its a good song too. Rather funny and full of satire, but easy to understand as far as getting the meaning of the song goes.
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Posted: 11 Dec 04, 17:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, it is also on the 1964 concert at philharmonic hall bootleg series. This song is not on there, but The Death of Emmit Till is highly political. It was about a young black boy was killed by some older white men. Its really good too.
My mistake about 'Universal Solider.' Whoops. But a good one nonetheless.

The bootleg series are great, espeically the 1964 one that yours truly has, lol.
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