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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 12:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh yes! In fact, no doubt about it! I hoped that Queen fans could name harmonies were Freddie did not participate in the old days. I think I know some.

- Fat Bottomed girls (isnt that only Brian in the intro? )

Winters tale (I think some harmonies there are only Brian and Roger)

I think a lot from made in heaven contains only Brian and Roger in the harmonies, and I think it sounds great.

Same goes for No One But You.


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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 13:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thought freddie was on the intro to FBG???




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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 15:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And listening to the little jam they had at the Rockfield studios (In the boRhap docu), they're still good on that side of things! And yes, the MIH stuff is also a good example.

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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 15:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"thought freddie was on the intro to FBG???"

It sounds like Brian to me! Can anybody confirm this?


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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 15:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sure. Headlong - near the end, sounds like all Brian to me.

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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 15:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

what i'm saying is that the harmonies appear to be fred/brian and roger




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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 18:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bottom line...no. Watching the recent Queen film where Brian and Roger went back to where BH was recorded just did not sound the same without JD and Freddie.

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Posted: 15 Dec 04, 22:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fat Bots intro, in the studio, has Brian in the lead voice, Freddie in the middle harmony, and Freddie (?) in the low part. The live version changes the arrangement: the low part is done one octave higher and sung by Roger, and Fred & Brian switch positions.

Harmonies that sound Queen-esque without Freddie:

- Driven By You
- Love Token
- No One But You
- Save Me (2nd bridge)
- Las Palabras De Amor ("this night and evermore")

But most of them were done by Brian while he still sang good imo (1947-1998). Nowadays his voice sucks (listen to No One But You at Amsterdam or that poor Too Much Love with Pavarotti)


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 05:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Bottom line...no. Watching the recent Queen film where Brian and Roger went back to where BH was recorded just did not sound the same without JD and Freddie. "

Thats a stupid remark. Of course they couldnt sound the same when there where no bass player. And what kind of instrument did Freddie play in the hard rock section of borhap live? Answer: Nothing. He sang.



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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 06:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The voice is an instrument as well


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 08:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For me one of the major parts of the distinctive sound of Queen is the Red Special and Brian's playing.



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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Makavelli said that that Brian and Roger didnt sound the same. EHH.. Freddie doesnt affect the guitar og drumplaying.

If you take the BoRhap mastertape and removes freddies voice and John Deacons bass the guitar is still the same! Are you stupid?



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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 13:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No-one has mentioned Tie Your Mother Down's chorus is all Brian.


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 15:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i thought all of the lead on tie your mother down was freddie


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tbh bri doesn't sound the same as he did then.


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 17:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it could sound similar (due to the Red) but not the same (for obvious reasons).
The harmonies of Bri, Rog and Freddie were always so amazing - and Freddie does do abit of harmony of "I'm in love with my Car" - I always wait for it, coz it sounds so darn good !!!!


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 17:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Remember, too, that we're mainly talking about harmonies and "the sound" so neither Bri nor Rog might sound as they did long ago, but as long as their voices meld as well as they did, they'll be golden.
They should be able to get some version of the Queen sound.


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 18:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> And I don't think that it is difficult to find a PIANIST who could replace Freddie

It`s not that easy. It`s not a matter of finding someone who can play the same notes (I think any pianist, guitarist, bassist or drummer with 3 years of experience can play any Fred, Brian, John or Rog part with the same speed) but the way he did them. In the case of `Car` it`s easy, in the case of, say, Bo Rhap, imo Spike ruins it.

> '39 didn't even have Freddie's participation (studio version).

Fred sang harmonies. Loads of them

> Tenement Funster

Fred played piano

> Modern Times Rock'n'Roll

Fred played piano, and sang harmonies

> No-one has mentioned Tie Your Mother Down's chorus is all Brian.

Because it`s not. Listen to the DTS channels: Freddie and Roger are more than clearly there.


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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 22:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

not charles baer™ <br><font size=1>poo wrote:

" Same goes for No One But You. "

no shit , sherlock



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Interview?... oh, don't be ridiculous!
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Posted: 16 Dec 04, 22:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


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check the intro chorus on Brian's too much love WKY and tell me if that doesn't sound like a Queen harmony.




Interview?... oh, don't be ridiculous!