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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've just found my dad's old LP of The Works, and listening to I Want To Break Free, there is no intro with the violins or anything. So I have two questions:
Was the intro part added on to later versions of the song, or was it just not included on the LP version?
Why?

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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 12:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The LP version is shorter and doesn't have an intro.

The Single mix has an intro and is longer, which can be found on Greatest Hits II, Flix II and GVHII!

And there's a Extended Mix, but u know that right? ;)

So they released a different version for the single and 12", it's hard to say which version was first. I think it's weird they didn't include the longer version on the record, maybe there were issues with length? :)


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The single version somehow needed to be longer or more single-like, therefore there`s the intro and a very different mix


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 13:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, but it would be great on The Works as well, why they didn't do this is beyond me. I hate the version on the LP!


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 13:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pfffff violin??????
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they're slow strings in any synth


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 14:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, single's version is better, but too different to album's one.

Maybe Fred reworked it for single release? As he did with Roger's AKOM.

And of course there's no violins (I don't mean Roger's solo song now).

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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 16:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well strings, violins. At least I got the right familly of instrument (albeit in synths, but still).

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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 16:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Technically synth strings do include (synth) violins, plus of course synth cello, viola and double-bass.

But still wrong because the intro aren`t synth-strings, that`s a warm-pad


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 16:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh god I know nothing about synths/warm pads or whatever they are. What does it all mean?

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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When you put the warm pad voice in a synth what you get is ... well, that sound (like the one in Break Free solo, or the one in Life Is Real near the end). The sound is warm (obviously) and it takes a short while (0.5 sec or so) from the moment you play the key to the moment it sounds, because it`s fading in. I think Las Palabras De Amor has pad as well.

The synth-solo of Break Free was played by Fred Mandel, an exceptional pianist who got "stolen" by Elton John after the Works sessions. He used a Jupiter 8, which had the unison option (dividing 16 different kinds of sounds, in this case pads, between the notes you play), and that`s what gave it the "fat" sound


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

When you put the warm pad voice in a synth what you get is ... well, that sound (like the one in Break Free solo, or the one in Life Is Real near the end). The sound is warm (obviously) and it takes a short while (0.5 sec or so) from the moment you play the key to the moment it sounds, because it`s fading in. I think Las Palabras De Amor has pad as well.

The synth-solo of Break Free was played by Fred Mandel, an exceptional pianist who got "stolen" by Elton John after the Works sessions. He used a Jupiter 8, which had the unison option (dividing 16 different kinds of sounds, in this case pads, between the notes you play), and that`s what gave it the "fat" sound


at least in the synths I've played, they're called SLOW STRINGS.

Las Palabras de Amor has an arpeggiator (not sure) anyway... it's not a fading effect of the synth.... it IS actually fading the record...


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Posted: 28 Dec 04, 17:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

at least in the synths I've played, they're called SLOW STRINGS.


Slow strings and warm-pad are a little different. Now that I hear the intro of IWTBF, there are indeed soem strings mixed in with the pads.

Las Palabras de Amor has an arpeggiator


Yes. Also pads, check them in the verses.

it's not a fading effect of the synth.... it IS actually fading the record...


Yes, of course I don`t mean it fades that way. The one in Break Free is of course done via soundboard. The "fade in" of the warm-pad is much more subtle


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 00:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah that confused me too, but oh well! The video still kicks ass! Roger's HOT! lol


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 05:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Am I the only one who prefers the album version? I always regarded Break Free as a simple song that should not last more than 3 minutes. However, it fits the video, although the vid doesn't have any sense at all. But who needs sense if you see Roger in THAT outfit?


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MatiasQueen89 wrote:

Las Palabras de Amor has an arpeggiator (not sure) anyway... it's not a fading effect of the synth.... it IS actually fading the record...


Yes, but it also has a warm sound. I think Sebastian is referring to that.

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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Scirocco1977 wrote:

But who needs sense if you see Roger in THAT outfit?


Woo Roger was hot in that outfit..

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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 13:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yup. For me there's nothing sexier than a HOT cross-dressing blonde guy..