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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 08:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

is it just me, or is it pretty shocking?

I watched it recently and I thought...hmmm, this strikes me as EMI telling queen, look, we spent loads of money getting you a train(breakthru), making loads of brian may's appear(invisible man), and training up junior versions of you(miracle), so we havent got alot left. we'll make something that says scandal and put it behind you, but the rest is up to you.

like when the couple come out those doors at the start, i assume its meant to be a hotel, its just some wooden doors on the same set!(you can see freddie and the boys in the background)

the costume department also seems to have been a bit flat

to be honest I dont know why im being so critical, its just normally queen were very inventive with videos, and it just seemed totally...uninventive

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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 08:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

heh, that's true. It's pretty bland but I guess that's what they were aiming for.


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 08:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fred wears the same jacket he wore in the Invisible Man vid :P


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 08:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Fairy King wrote:

Fred wears the same jacket he wore in the Invisible Man vid :P



:o i never noticed that!!!


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it`s a cool video.But rest of their videos from that period is quit useless..


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

they could always improve the effects...lol

and put out an enchanched miracle



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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I didn't notice the video was crap because I love Scandal so much. With a better video the song may have been a bigger hit though

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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thats my point exactly. I love the song. (the extended mix is better though), but with the poor video, is it any wonder it only got to no.25? which led to its omission from greatest hits 2.

lol. there lies the true reason for my venom towards the video

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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 19:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger said that he thought they should have gone bigger w/ it, so you guys have a good point.

And about It's a Hard Life, I like that video. As Brian said, it shows the irony in Freddie's life.


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 20:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

listen to their commentary on GVH 1. They hated that particular video!

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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 20:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow it must be late in the UK. I the US it's only 8:45 central time.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 04:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

However, you are well advised to put in GVH II not I to listen to the comments on Hard Life.

Was the first commentary I listened to because I knew they would be so obviously truthful with their real feelings... A shame though that Brian always tries to be diplomatic about everything. Good thing Roger tells us what has been shite.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 22:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigc wrote:

thats my point exactly. I love the song. (the extended mix is better though), but with the poor video, is it any wonder it only got to no.25? which led to its omission from greatest hits 2.

lol. there lies the true reason for my venom towards the video


I think the mediocre chart success "Scandal" enjoyed had less to do with either the quality of the song or the video, and more to do with the fact that it was the 4th single off a very successful album, and therefore most of the people who would have been inclined to buy it as a single didn't because they already owned it on the album and didn't want to spend money on something they already owned and had been enjoying for months. Most Queen singles follow the same pattern: the first single charts very high because the only way people could own the song was to buy the single because the single was released in advance of the album. Then the singles released after the album is available to buy do less and less well on the singles chart because more and more people have already bought the album and therefore own all the songs serviced to radio as singles. If "Scandal" had been released as the first single instead of "I Want It All", it would have almost certainly charted top 10 and maybe even top 5 - even with the same video. By comparison, "The Miracle" had a great and almost universally loved video and it didn't chart much higher than "Scandal".


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 23:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I LOVE that video! I LOVE that song! Truly one of my two favs on The Miracle, no question.


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 10:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ray D O'Gaga wrote: [/ If "Scandal" had been released as the first single instead of "I Want It All", it would have almost certainly charted top 10 and maybe even top 5 - even with the same video. By comparison, "The Miracle" had a great and almost universally loved video and it didn't chart much higher than "Scandal".



it was the 5th off the album. but still did a bit better.

I just think its a shame,because I love Scandal. and because it never made it on GH2, or any of them, its got a massively reduced audience amongst newer fans



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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 11:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

like roger said in some dcumentary (and what the hell was its' title?), they did some coplicated videos, they became fashionable so the next one had to be simple.. simple clips are popular, so the next one's black and white.... it's maybe nat exactly what he said but he point is the same... i don't think it had anything to do with the company giving them less money to do it... it was their chioce in my opinion and i don't give a shit if fred was wearin' the same jacket as in the invisible man or not... the video is cool for me...


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmmm. I've never thought of it like that but I guess it is true. I love the song and the video is okay.
But now that I'm thinking about it how much would that train for Breakthrough cost? Not cheap I'm guessing.


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 14:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


it was the 5th off the album. but still did a bit better.

I just think its a shame,because I love Scandal. and because it never made it on GH2, or any of them, its got a massively reduced audience amongst newer fans


Yeah "The Miracle" was the 5th single and ended up peaking at, what? 22? and Scandal was 25? Not a lot of difference really. I think "The Miracle" single came out in November '89 didn't it? I suppose it could have benefited from some early holiday sales to give it a bit of a bump. Or the public may have just liked the song better.

Another consideration might be the formats the individual singles were available in. The singles from "The Miracle" album were really the peak of Queen singles being released in different and collectible formats - 7 inch vinyl, 12 inch vinyl, cassette single, CD single, picture discs, etched with signatures, shaped picture discs, poster packs, and on and on. I think some singles from that era were released in as many as 5 different formats, and I assume that was done in an attempt to increase sales to a degree by making releases that were attractive to collectors.

As I recall, "Scandal" was available in a poster pack as a 7 inch and with etched signatures on 12 inch, while "The Miracle" 12 inch came with a print of the album cover and with that (for the time) neat looking hologram sleeve for the 7 inch. So I guess the flashier packaging could have also helped "The Miracle" squeak past "Scandal", despite it being the 5th single. I know a lot of people felt like all those different formats were a cash grab, and they probably were, but I always thought they were cool. I love, especially, picture discs and colored vinyl and wish they had produced more of them instead of less.


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 18:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well darlings, Scandal is the one i love the most. i think its a powerfull song-and about the video-it's a simple one but its the last video where freddie looks like freddie-the tricks with the mic. , the dancing etc.. after it all the videos were compilcated-to hide his illness (except "headlong"-which resembles the dieing freddie...). scandal video has some magic-the rest of the magic that was left from freddie at that point.


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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 22:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't mind the video, it is better than the Back Chat one.
LOL
(and dare I mention the "Body Language" one? Urgh)