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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

can anyone say what is best and why.I only have wembley on dvd.I have often heard that budapest is much better so can anyone give me a nice little review


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Can't compare, Budapest is too short compared to Wembley! But if u mean the performance i have to say Budapest woz better!


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But you cant play guitar to Budapest cos the tuning is slightly up, so id have to say Wembley :D


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats cause its filmed on film, not video... Simply tune your guitar up!

I think cause its faster, Budapest comes across better, but slow it down to the right speed and theres not much in it - there both mammoth gigs, Wembley as it was a home crowd, one year on from Live Aid and they were massive again, Budapest cause it was a Western group playing behind the Iron Curtain. I personally like both in equal measures...


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Audience were lazy in both cases...

Budapest's video was edited and that's why Wembley is better. Wembley was an event, Budapest was a gig.

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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 11:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I preffer Budapest, Freddie's performance is great.
But Wembley's so fucking awesome, it's great.


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 11:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

budapest was the EVENT
it was queen's first gig behind the iron curtain


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 17:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i was only disputing the "event" tag that someone else placed on wembley (i wasn't saying which was best) just which was the EVENT
...and that because of Queen's first visit behind the Iron Curtain made it a bigger event


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Posted: 29 Dec 04, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would have to say Wembley. Budapest was shorter in comparison and the showmanship was exceptional, but Wembley was a masterpiece from the opening chords of One Vision to the band's exit to God Save the Queen. Everything went perfectly that night. The impromptu...and Brian's guitar solo was the most beautiful I have ever heard. There's one bit in particular that stands out to me...it sounds so sad and mournful. I've never been able to capture quite the feeling on guitar he captured that night at Wembley. Phenomenal, really.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 05:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sadly, both shows display the complete lack of versatility in that band by that point. teh set lists were stale and boring, with the same solos played in exactly the same way - and pretty much the same things said to the audiences each time.

What IS a shame is that the first night of the Wembley shows wasn't filmed properly - now that was twice the show that ANY of the filmed shows were. The guys were genuinely thrilled to be back in London and Brian specifically was in awesome form.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<marquee><font color = green>Brenski wrote:

i was only disputing the "event" tag that someone else placed on wembley (i wasn't saying which was best) just which was the EVENT
...and that because of Queen's first visit behind the Iron Curtain made it a bigger event


As a man who lived in USSR I must tell you that Hungary WAS NOT behind the Iron Curtain! People used to think it was, but it wasn't. As well as former Yugoslavia wasn't and Queen played there at 1979!

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

budapest wasnt any shorter than wembley gig wise, just queen had the habit of severely editing videos, when the original budapest vhs tape came out in 1987 & wembley in 1990, so until the full version comes out on dvd ill hold judgement

but the one major plus point for budapest it was a night gig, so the lights have a far greater effect right from the off

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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 06:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

>but the one major plus point for budapest it >was a night gig, so the lights have a far >greater effect right from the off

......as opposed to the performance and / or music being any better? I can't see why "lights" would make the show any better or worse; surely, if you're spending time watching the lightshow, you're missing out on the more important aspects of the gig?


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Posted: 01 Jan 05, 17:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMO their performance is much better in Budapest. Brian's guitar sounds so great.

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Posted: 01 Jan 05, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I said that so many times...
Budapest- Fred's voice was in great shape!
@ Wembley it was much worse... AND- the band doesn't sound like a unit as much as it did in budapest (and Knebworth and Lleiden and first night @ Wembley and...)

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 06:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"As a man who lived in USSR I must tell you that Hungary WAS NOT behind the Iron Curtain! People used to think it was, but it wasn't. As well as former Yugoslavia wasn't and Queen played there at 1979! "

get some history book in your hand then... hard to forget 45 years of Russian troops stationing in Hungary......

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 07:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks Miklos, i thought i was right on this

Sergey - go to
http://www.libertyhaven.com/countriesandregions/easterneurope/peek.html
or try
http://www.pbs.org/redfiles/prop/deep/prop_deep_maps.htm
where it says:
Iron Curtain
On March 5, 1946, in describing the recent appearance of economic, social, and military barriers between Eastern and Western Europe, Winston Churchill said in Fulton in the United States, that "From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an Iron Curtain has descended across the continent." This vivid metaphor caught the public imagination, and phrases such as "behind the Iron Curtain" remained in widespread use right up until the collapse of Communism. The Europan countries which were considered to be "behind the Iron Curtain" included: Poland, Estearn Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania and the Soviet Union. From North Korea to Cuba more countries were separated from the West in the same sense.

i did wwII histroy at school - and although it was quite a long time since i was at school i haven't forgoten it.
check the facts fella, then feel free to admit you are wrong.
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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 08:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and isn't Zagreb (where Queen played in 79) part of croatia?

if so then although Yugoslavia was behind the curtain - it is also accepted tht Croatia (although part of Yugoslavia) has always enjoyed a little more freedom - european packahe holidays have been available in Dubrovnik for 30 years


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 10:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Budapest is superior but PAL version is best avoided as it is speeded up (by 4%) to convert the film fps. Anybody else notice this or done a comparison?

Best stick to the NTSC version.

Same goes for WWRY

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think for the following reasons Budapest is
the better show:

-Budapest was in darkness, so the whole show
benefits of the lights

-Freddie's voice is much better in Budapest

-The whole sound is better in Budapest

Just compare Tutti Frutti, Tie your mother
down or Hammer to Fall. Or simply Freddie
singing one Vision!

The only advantage for Wembley is the audience.



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