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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 06:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry for posting a question that surely has been answered before, but anyway... do you know when did Freddie know that he had AIDS? I mean, not the precise date, but was it before The Miracle, after the Magic tour or when?

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 06:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

search QZ and you'll find this thread about ten times - and your answer too


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 06:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not certain but i think it was Spring 87.. but I could be wrong.. and I probably am

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 07:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it was earlier.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 07:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Montserrat knew he was HIV during the Barcelona sessions - she commented about his "fcaial lesions and his overuse of makeup"

but thta's hIV not AIDS - they are two very distinct things
it is possible to be HIV for years without succumbing to AIDS

Freddie was "ill" with AIDS around the recording sessions for the Miracle - hence the album title


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 07:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I read a Queen book recently (female author) who said Freddie had been tested not long after Live Aid but was negative, but after a period of uncertainty was tested positive around Easter 1987.

What does Jim Hutton say? There are other people who say he knew on the Magic tour, in fact Brian himself said as much on one of the extras on the DVD.

Brian also said in a TV inty a while back that Freddie had known for at least five years before he died.



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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 07:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Late 1986, cuz Brian said, Freddie had said he didn't want to do this anymore(about touring).


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 08:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Buy and read Peter Freestone's book - there are answers to most of questions about Fred's personality, because (or as Mr The Fairy King like to say: cuz) people here would tell you their own versions and interpretations of Brian's, Freddie's etc. words!

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 09:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sergey
the question was when did he know he had AIDS - not HIV - they are two different things

HIV - around 86/87 barcelona sessions
AIDS - around the miracle recording

some people with HIV don't get AIDS



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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 09:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<marquee><font color = green>Brenski wrote:

sergey
the question was when did he know he had AIDS - not HIV - they are two different things

HIV - around 86/87 barcelona sessions
AIDS - around the miracle recording

some people with HIV don't get AIDS


Umm... Yeah, but why you wrote that reply for me? I didn't discuss about the dates actually...

I just said that we need some good reliable sources of information, but not someone's thoughts about it like "Brian wrote Who Wants To Live Forever and Keep Yourself Alive because he knew that there was something wrong with Fred"... Don't agree?

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, it's true, HIV and AIDS are different things. I said AIDS because, at that time, there were not many chances to survive after AIDS had been diagnosed.
I'm not interested in knowing how freddie got it, I just wanted to know how it could have influenced his music and changed his attitude. If he knew it before The Miracle, songs such as I Want It All, The Miracle or Was It All Worth It have much more sense.

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie knew it since autumn 86. It was reason for why Queen did not go on tour in 1987.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Peta said: Freddie knew it since autumn 86. It was reason for why Queen did not go on tour in 1987.
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no he didn't - he knew about HIV in late 86/early 87...but that IS NOT AIDS - please read the previous posts again....

and he was fed up with touring in 86 - BEFORE he was diagnosed HIV (which is fekkin well different to AIDS) - if you listen to the queen for an hour tape (89) he comments on his feelings after the magic tour - how he was so

"fed up with the endless cycle of record/promote/tour" and he "wanted to get away from the routine" -


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and anyway.

queen didnt tour in 1987 because they had the whole year off! which was decided in early '86 regardless.freddie continued to perform on and off(to promote barcelona etc), until his final live performance, which was on the 14th April 1988, at the time musical

if you want to know when freddie had AIDS, surely shouldnt you read jim huttons book?

I saw some extracts,but that wont help. early 1987 for HIV is the best guess.altho in the extract from Huttons book, it says he told Hutton then he had full blown AIDS.



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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 18:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

joe.i hate to ask you this.what was the website?



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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 19:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

one question.. why the fascination?

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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 19:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

11:05 am - Friday 27th April.


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Posted: 30 Dec 04, 20:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

11:05 am - Friday 27th April.


But what year, John!

Some source of information YOU are. Feh.

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Posted: 31 Dec 04, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That page is unavailable since weeks ago(at least for me)... but it doesn't matter. I've seen many pictures of freddie in 1991 around the web. And, as far as I know, the last picture of freddie was taken by the "Daily Star". It appeared in the November 8th issue, and was referred to be taken the previous day. Freddie looks very thin... :(
I'm agree with Joe Satriani. I can't understand those conducts also... there are always many people that are gonna do whatever they can in order to get some money... that annoys me :(


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Posted: 01 Jan 05, 09:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Brenski, I red it in one book.I do not remember his name but I think Queen As it began or Ricky Ski Life of Freddie Mercury. I will look at these books. Sorry for my english. I know HIF and AIDS are two different things.


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