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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi. I was wondering about that song Hammer To Fall and this one line always stuck out in my mind.

"In the shadow of the mushroom cloud"

Does anyone know what that's supposed to mean?

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nuclear-attack>chemical reaction of a nuclear bomb is a muchroomcloud.

as u can see mnah:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Nagasakibomb.jpg

and mnah:

http://www.peaceteam.org.nz/images/mushroom.jpg



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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That line of the song means that in the time when Brian was young the youth had to live in fear that a nuclear war might happen


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

they still did in 1984 though...didnt they?

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

During the Cold War between America and Russia or whatever.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 13:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigc wrote:

they still did in 1984 though...didnt they?


The Cold War was supposed to be over by then, but I think it didn't officially end until the late 80s or so... don't quote me on that, though, because I'm not 100% sure.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the cold war was far from being over in 1984.
only a few (2, i think) years before, nuclear weapons were stationed in both parts of germany.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Very funny, Alex. Really.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 15:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To be precise, it was the Cuba crisis that brought the world very near to a nuclear war, and made Brian think of such a horrible scenario... I don't like mushrooms... not even the ones that grow in forests.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 15:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Scirocco1977 wrote:

... I don't like mushrooms... not even the ones that grow in forests.


Neither do I. I can barely eat them.

<h5><font color=gold>Linda Of The Valley wrote:

I hate mushrooms! Except for Magic Mushrooms..lol


LOL. Good one.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 15:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font><font color=charm>Alex Solan<font> wrote:

Kaletzabar wrote:

Scirocco1977 wrote:

... I don't like mushrooms... not even the ones that grow in forests.


Neither do I. I can barely eat them.


oh... and champignons too... delicious!


I don't like ANY kind of mushroom. Honestly.


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 16:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hmmm...weed


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 16:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

how come anyone can not like mushrooms? heh... but well... anytime one sees somebody picking mushrooms in the forest, it's almost 100% certain that it's a guy from poland :D and the "other" mushrooms.... well... unless you live on 10th floor or so, it's quite safe hehe


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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 17:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the-rock wrote:

the cold war was far from being over in 1984.
only a few (2, i think) years before, nuclear weapons were stationed in both parts of germany.


As a Russian I can confirm this. The cold war was finished at the begin of 90s.

And there's another one Queen's quote about the cold war - on 'The Miracle': "super-powers always fighting".

About HTF - listen to Brian's commentary about this one on GVHII he explains everything.

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Posted: 02 Jan 05, 21:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh really? That's interesting, you learn something new everyday! I just always pictured Queen performing under a giant mushroom whenever I hear this. lol.

::shrugs:: I guess it is possible to write an upbeat rocking song about nuclear war.

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Posted: 03 Jan 05, 00:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry Funster wrote:

the-rock wrote:

the cold war was far from being over in 1984.
only a few (2, i think) years before, nuclear weapons were stationed in both parts of germany.


As a Russian I can confirm this. The cold war was finished at the begin of 90s.

And there's another one Queen's quote about the cold war - on 'The Miracle': "super-powers always fighting".

About HTF - listen to Brian's commentary about this one on GVHII he explains everything.


Thanks, I knew it was ended in the early 90's, thought I was crazy for a second.

And I found it very moving when Brian mentioned his nightmares on GVH2 commentary. (Roger didn't seem too interested, but whatever...)


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Posted: 03 Jan 05, 06:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I Brian and Roger separately recorded their commentary for GVHII, probably why roger didn't comment on it.



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Posted: 03 Jan 05, 06:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have that DVD and I didn't see that part. Is it in the works interviews?

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Posted: 03 Jan 05, 06:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Las Palabras De Amor wrote:

I have that DVD and I didn't see that part. Is it in the works interviews?


Choose "Audio commentary" under audio options and start the HTF video. Then, you can listen to Brian and Roger commenting on the video!


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Posted: 03 Jan 05, 11:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmm, who gave the cold to one another and started the whole war?? I think I need to take a shiitake.