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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know it originated from the barcelona album, or around that time, but were Freddie's vocals recorded then too? It sounds like it when I listen to it, because they sound alot more powerful than the Innuendo-era vocals.




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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yup !! i think it was at the end of 88 early 89 with mike moran. amazing vocals on that track.


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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i know ive read where people don't like this innuendo track, perhaps because it originated as a mercury solo. but i gotta say this is my favorite track from inuendo, tied with slightly mad and twtdool.

it has elements of somebody to love i think.

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 13:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

was it a late addition as they ran out of time to put in another queen track?

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What a great song, by the way!

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 14:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Song was rearranged for Queen, so his vocal parts came from Innuendo sessions.

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 18:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ahhh you agree?

its just there seems to be more strength and power to them

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 18:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don`t think his vocal tracks com from Innuendo sessions. Apparently it was something they all got involved gradually. Perhaps they had it half-done (i.e. without guitar overdubs, or timpani or whatever) at Miracle sessions.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 18:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yep thats what I thought. the line... i orta go to bed, and have an early night.

the power freddie has when he sings that line is what convinces me its pre-innuendo



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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 19:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i reckon from lisenting to the song so many times the vocals weren't from barca/miracle but from the innuendo sessions.. but until the anthology comes out if it ever does..like the beatles we'll never know

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 19:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

check the website out bechstein debauchary or some shit like that

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Posted: 08 Jan 05, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My Best Friend wrote:

check the website out bechstein debauchary or some shit like that


Yes but that shit doesn`t have info on that


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 09 Jan 05, 16:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, Sebastian, but I can't understand why they had to use old tapes for recording new album (that's not MIH case)?

1) It seems like we've got all recorded tracks from 'The Miracle' era: album, B-sides, demos (even 11-thminute version of Stealin'), there's no any notice about demo of 'All God's People' from that period - so vocal probably couldn't come from The Miracle sessions.

2) Since the Freddie's Box Set has been released we can say that there's no demo of 'All God's People' by Freddie (yes, there are some tracks left out of box set, but they're available over the Internet) - again vocal parts can't came from Freddie's solo sessions.

3) They recorded demo of 'Delilah' at 1989 - vocal parts of its are different to album's version, so they re-recorded them later, so why the same (if we accept that there already were recorded vocals of Freddie) couldn't be done with 'All God's People'?

4) As we know 'Sheer Heart Attack' song was written by Roger for SHA album (and probably SHA's version was recorded as well), but released much later on NOTW - but Freddie's vocal came from NOTW sessions, not from SHA (well, actually I think on original version lead-vocal could be sung by Roger, but anyway) - they recorded new version of song.

5) During Innuendo sessions Freddie was still able to sing and there was not need in using old takes.

So why did they have to use non-Innuendo takes of Freddie's vocal for recording 'All God's People'? I can't see any obvious reasons.

BTW, I think that only one Innuendo track where Freddie's voice is closer to Miracle standarts than to Innuendo's is 'Delilah'! Probably because it was first recorded song for this album and it was short after The Miracle release. And besides I really doubt that Freddie wrote 'All God's People' for 'Barcelona' album, he wrote it for his unfinished album (as well as all those tracks from sessions at 1987), IMO.

Well, it's just the guess - maybe I'm wrong. I wasn't Queen sound engineer (and this is very pity), so I can't be sure for 100%! :-)

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Posted: 09 Jan 05, 16:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I assumed a major reason would be timesaving.

he could work on vocals for other songs while the rest of them did the music for all gods people. then when he couldnt make it to a session, they'd catch up by doing the music for the next track he did.


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Posted: 09 Jan 05, 16:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, Sebastian, but I can't understand why they had to use old tapes for recording new album (that's not MIH case)?


If the tapes were good, they wouldn`t replace them. I guess (rather than know) that, for instance, Mike`s piano playing was kept. They overdubbed the "rest" (guitars, bass, timpani, perhaps changed the sound of a synth, perhaps the vocals were later as you say...)

1) so vocal probably couldn't come from The Miracle sessions.


No, but Barcelona sessions (which are more or less at the same time)

2) Since the Freddie's Box Set has been released we can say that there's no demo of 'All God's People' by Freddie (yes, there are some tracks left out of box set, but they're available over the Internet) - again vocal parts can't came from Freddie's solo sessions.


As far as I know, All God`s People demo (called `Africa By Night` or something like that) was left out the Box Set because it was going to be included in the Queen box-set (whenever it`s released). Btw there are more tracks left of the box set that we can`t find over the internet, for example Victory.

3) They recorded demo of 'Delilah' at 1989 - vocal parts of its are different to album's version, so they re-recorded them later, so why the same (if we accept that there already were recorded vocals of Freddie) couldn't be done with 'All God's People'?


Delilah is not the only track coming from 1989. Innuendo sessions begun in March, and as far as I know, the title track was one of the first to come. When Steve went they showed him Slightly Mad and I Can`t Live With You. The case of Delilah is simply because the vocals were horrible. It was a demo, but the "finished" version could have been easily done the next day.

4) As we know 'Sheer Heart Attack' song was written by Roger for SHA album (and probably SHA's version was recorded as well), but released much later on NOTW - but Freddie's vocal came from NOTW sessions, not from SHA (well, actually I think on original version lead-vocal could be sung by Roger, but anyway) - they recorded new version of song.


Very different situation. Rog had it half-finished. When he completed its songwriting he recorded a new backing track. (I guess). During the synth era they could save their ideas in midi or whatever, and use them later on. Same for "human" takes. Note The Dark (in Brian`s solo album) comes from Flash sessions.

5) During Innuendo sessions Freddie was still able to sing and there was not need in using old takes.


Unless the old take was already "IT"

But anyway, you know what`s the difference between the end of Miracle sessions and the beginning of Innuendo sessions? Two months!. So either side is right, it`s not such a big change. Still it`s nice to write long posts :)


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.