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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 09:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was listening to Osaka '76 in the bus and suddenly I realised that all tracks from the medley were written by Freddie. So I then tried to remember all medleys over the years and to my surprise the first time a Brian's composition appears in a medley is in 1984!!!! (Keep Yourself Alive)
From my head:
1975 ITLOTG,KQ,MOTBK,BBTLB
1976 BR,KQ,MOTBK,BR,BBTLB
1977 KQ,GOFLB,TMW,YMBF
1978 DOTL,KQ,INLWMC,GOFLB,TMW,GDML,YMBF (not sure about the ordering)
1979 DOTL,KQ,BR,INLWMC,GDML,YMBF
1980,Mustapha,DOTL,KQ,INLWMC,GDML
1981 KQ,INLWMK,GDML (not sure now)
1982 (no medley)
1984 (At last!!!) STL,KQ,SSOR,KYA,Liar.
1986 (another BM) ITOTG,SSOR Liar, TIU, AKOM ...

So, it looks pretty clear to me that Brian does not like medleys.

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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian did a Queen medley on his Another World tour in 1998. Just because his tracks were never included in a medley doesn't mean he didn't like them.

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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 09:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Prophet's Song and White Man were kinda joint, weren't they? mini-medley...
Now I'm here and Dragon Attack- same...
Well?

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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Watch some interviews on DVDs and you'll see that it didn't matter to them who wrote songs which were performing during live shows. For many years only one Roger's song was performing - I'm In Love With My Car - but this doesn't mean that Brian, Fred and John hated Roger.

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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 10:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They did a medley in Cape Town (46664)


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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fenderik is dead on as to Brian medleys...

btw, Brixton anyone? Resurrection/Guitar Solo/Chinese Torture/ 1812 Overture (what are we made of intro) / Bo Rhap/Resurrection reprise

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Posted: 19 Jan 05, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your answers! I forgot the BM solo tours. I just wanted to ask for opinions about that predominance of Freddie tracks in the medleys that I just thought about for the first time today. Obviously, the subject title that I used was wrong, but I am still curious about what Brian can tell us about how the medley songs were picked up. Should I ask him??? :-)

PS: Damn! The website is down!

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Posted: 20 Jan 05, 00:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally, I think Brian had the most say in what medleys comprised of, because he's definitely the most musically-educated guy in the band, thus being able to make the best segues possible from song to song (you can't tell me Freddie wrote the thing between DO2L and KQ).

Yes, they were each 25% of the band, but I think much of Brian's 25% was utilized for putting medleys together. Freddie was probably the key guy for setlists as a whole, as he had a great understanding of what people want.



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Posted: 20 Jan 05, 02:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Personally, I think Brian had the most say in what medleys comprised of, because he's definitely the most musically-educated guy in the band, thus being able to make the best segues possible from song to song (you can't tell me Freddie wrote the thing between DO2L and KQ)."

WHAT! Obviously, someone hasn't watched the On Fire DVD. Freddie was indeed a very competent pianist, as shown when he fools around before Play the Game in that particular concert.
God know what you're talking about when you speak of a segue between Death on Two Legs and Killer Queen. Those two songs are on different albums. Perhaps you meant Death on Two Legs and Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon. Digging further into that, Freddie was the one who wrote all the vaudeville songs. Both compositions of Death on Two Legs and Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon are Freddie's compositions. Why wouldn't he write the interlude? The structure follows the patterns of so many other of his pieces.
Besides, it you who says he able (able) to write the best segues, not that he does (does) write the best.


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Posted: 20 Jan 05, 03:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The segue between Death On Two Legs and Killer Queen can be found at the end of DOTL from the Live Killers album, not on ANATO.

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Posted: 20 Jan 05, 03:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian wasn`t more educated in the musical aspect than Fred. He accepted it himself, compare the harmony of Tie Your Mother Down with Bicycle Race or Killer Queen. Or compare Prophet`s Song (excellent track, but not entirely complicated) with Black Queen.

In terms of arrangements they were just different, they were both equally strong imo. But as far as composition goes (keys, meters, forms) Fred was more advanced (which doesn`t mean better, just... well, that, more advanced)

The DOTL-KQ spacer isn`t so "high-class", you don`t need to be an orchestra conductor to write that. All four members in the band were capable enough to have suggested it.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 21 Jan 05, 02:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Victoria wrote:

WHAT! Obviously, someone hasn't watched the On Fire DVD. Freddie was indeed a very competent pianist, as shown when he fools around before Play the Game in that particular concert.
God know what you're talking about when you speak of a segue between Death on Two Legs and Killer Queen. Those two songs are on different albums. Perhaps you meant Death on Two Legs and Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon. Digging further into that, Freddie was the one who wrote all the vaudeville songs. Both compositions of Death on Two Legs and Lazing On a Sunday Afternoon are Freddie's compositions. Why wouldn't he write the interlude? The structure follows the patterns of so many other of his pieces.
Besides, it you who says he able (able) to write the best segues, not that he does (does) write the best.


What are you talking about? We're talking about live medleys. And yes, I've watched the On Fire DVD... Freddie just warms up with a few chords.. big deal. Freddie was a pretty good piano player, but certainly not one of the best ever.



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Posted: 21 Jan 05, 02:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

The DOTL-KQ spacer isn`t so "high-class", you don`t need to be an orchestra conductor to write that. All four members in the band were capable enough to have suggested it.


Yeah, maybe I'm just not giving the other three members enough credit. After listening to Dream Theater for a while, from a technical level, just about everyone else seems to pale in comparison.



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Posted: 21 Jan 05, 08:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adding to the original intent of the question (which was a nice observation and good question)...the medley segment was the 'play the hits' concept, and most likely Freddie not wanting to be tied down to the piano for such long spells.

btw...our daughter borrowed a few Dream Theatre CDs. Having read about them so often here, and seeing them live with Queensryche two years back, we're looking forward to the listen.

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Posted: 25 Jan 05, 17:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jgoodm wrote:

btw...our daughter borrowed a few Dream Theatre CDs. Having read about them so often here, and seeing them live with Queensryche two years back, we're looking forward to the listen.

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Enjoy!! Which albums are they?



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Posted: 26 Jan 05, 02:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bit of randomness...

You know how at the bottom of the screen there's this thing you click on to minimize the page or bring it back up again and it says the title of the page?

Well for this thread it says "Brian doesn't like me..."

I have quite a bad sense of humour and i found it quite amusing.


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Posted: 27 Jan 06, 13:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always liked the medley of piano- based songs- I was very disappointed when Fred started thinking he had to be near-permanently stood up to connect with an audience- it's sheer laziness in my view. Wembley in '86 was crying out for a medley of Play The Game, Death On Two Legs, Mustapha (not just the intro) and Somebody To love (if not the full version!). Instead we got Friends Will Be Friends and I Want To Break Free. Not acceptable.


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Posted: 27 Jan 06, 14:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie did not like to do medleys. His preference was to do a pastiche.

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Posted: 27 Jan 06, 15:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't get it. There is no song of Brian in a medley (except during the Works-tour), but does that mean he doesn't like medleys? Doesn't make sense.




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Posted: 27 Jan 06, 17:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1982: Now I'm Here/Dragon Attack/Now I'm Here reprise OR Now I'm Here/Put Out The Fire/Dragon Attack/Now I'm Here reprise.

All Brian songs, as I recall.