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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 05:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who agrees with me that a lot of modern groups don't have the talent to create their own music so they take older songs, revamp them (in their eyes) and totally f**k them up in the process!!!

I can't believe what I heard on Video Smash Hits (TV Top Ten) this morning. A rap/hip hop version of the Archies "Sugar". My god it was bloody awful. A couple of weeks ago, I heard another craptaculur version of a classic "Eye of The Tiger (Theme from the movie Rocky for those of you who don't know) again done in a horrendous rap/hip hop version. And then there is this chick who for effing sake has ruined a song from Fiddler on the Roof.

Sure, some of the youngsters will cry "Get with it old fart" but I say if you are going to do a cover of a GOOD song DO IT RIGHT!!!

And I will even go further by saying if you can't do it right, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 06:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i have to agree! though i didnt mind the new version of behind blue eyes...but some are just crap!!!! and i agree with your advice!! LEAVE THE GOOD ALONE!!!


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 06:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you sire - nice to see some people have good taste

I also recently heard a song from the movie "Flashdance" which they call "The Flashdance Song" oh dear how original was that??? Yes I can see they put a lot of effort into that thought...........NOT!!!!!!! By the way it was crap too


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 06:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you - nice to see some people have good taste

I also recently heard a song from the movie "Flashdance" which they call "The Flashdance Song" oh dear how original was that??? Yes I can see they put a lot of effort into that thought...........NOT!!!!!!! By the way it was crap too


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 06:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're not talking about the Anthony 'My ego is a world of hurt' Mundane version? Er, Mundine? Worst ever. It could only get onto that program...that shit house one on Channel 10.

And Rage. But Rage has always been shit in my opinion. Only good for druggies, insomniacs and shift workers.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 07:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah look at what Eminem has done with Martika's "Toy Soldiers"..... At least he didnt make as big an arse of that than Vanilla Ice did with "Under Pressure"


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 08:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Theres an new Irish boyband at the moment called Zoo and they've just realised a version of "Poison" by Alice Cooper ,oh my god it's undescribably terrible, whoever thought it was a good idea to realise it should be sacked....it's very hard to improve on an original so why even try.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Definatly!!! I mean, just look at 5ive's version of We Will Rock You!!! Modern pop groups should definatly leave good ol' rock songs alone. Or music altogether... No one wants to listen to pop bands anyway!

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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 10:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You could blame the rappers, but in the end the ones to blame are the rock stars who just quite simply sell-out their classic hits to a rapper who has too much bling-bling and zero talent.

These are some of the worst examples of talented artists selling-out their work.


- COME WITH ME / Sean "P.Diddy" Combs
(sampling Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir")

I totally lost my respect for Jimmy Page after this. This is seriously worse than worshipping Satan. Not only he sold-out one of the greatest songs of all time, but he agreed to be featured in the video along with that douche bag.

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- SING FOR THE MOMENT / Eminem
(sampling Aerosmith's "Dream On")

Just simply awful, but even worse was selling this song to be featured on a Cadillac commercial.

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- BEEN AROUND THE WORLD / Sean "P.Diddy" Combs
(sampling David Bowie's "Let's Dance")

How could Bowie do this? Was he running out of cash.

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- BAWITDABA / Kid Rock
(sampling Metallica's "Sad But True")

I find it funny that Metallica fans called the band "sell-outs" for cutting off their hair and putting an album with an alternative edge, but yet none of them said anything when Kid Rock made this piece of crap.

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- I'VE BEEN MISSING YOU / Sean "P.Diddy" Combs
(sampling The Police's "Every Breath You Take")

Here's Puffy once again, cashing-in on someone else's talent and a "friend's" death.

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- FAITH / Limp Bizkit
(sampling George Michael's "Faith")

Not even covering someone else's song can Limp Bizkit make a semi-decent record. This one is actually even worse than the rest of Limp Bizkit's songs.

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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Cover versions usually are crap. Why modern day artists have to do them is beyond me. Very few, if any, have the real talent artists before them had.

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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I depends...if the old song is rock, and they turn it into rpa, I hate it! But, if it's similar, then I like it. It shows that the world is still listening to things that aren't so new.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 11:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

'Walk This Way' might be a rock song, but when it was re-made by Run DMC it sounded great!

Then again, the way Steven Tyler sings 'Walk This Way' on the original version, sounds more like rapping than singing.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 12:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=#8A2BE2> Linda Of The Valley wrote:

Ah no, I liked Call On Me....but yes, most of the remakes of old songs are shit. Though I like when they're made into dance versions..sometimes..


i agree with bellydancer!!! 100%

but yea linda, call on me is a classic! but the video is even better, all those pretty chiks :) lol


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Eminem's version of Toy Soldiers is fantastic. But then he always makes great songs sound better. Look what he did with Dido's Thank You. Turned it into my favourite rap song Stan.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 15:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MarchOfTheDirtQueen wrote:

I HATE it when new artists redo old songs!! Behind Blue Eyes is okay, but the rest suck ass!!


I hated Behind Blue Eyes, mostly because of the 'Discover L.I.M.P' thing in the middle, but also because of the morons that were convinced it was originally a Limp Bizkit song!


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 15:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of them are alright, but overall they are a waste of time.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 15:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Banquo wrote:

Eminem's version of Toy Soldiers is fantastic. But then he always makes great songs sound better. Look what he did with Dido's Thank You. Turned it into my favourite rap song Stan.


'Stan' is a great song, even if the music wasn't written by Eminem, Dr.Dre, or whoever works for Shady/Aftermath.
The story grabs you from the beginning from when you start listening to the song. I don't like Eminem for being such an ass, but I have to admit 'Stan' is one of the stories ever told in a song. The video is very cool as well, and Dido plays Stan's girlfriend.


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 17:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you one and all for responding to this AND pretty much agreeing with me. My opinion, as the Americans say, may not be worth a hill of beans BUT it seems to me that whilst there are some good original bands out there, in general the music industry has gone to pot.

Thank you Mr Jingles for pointing out another thing that I absolutely loathe which is "artists" partially taking remnants of older songs and again adapting them to their so called "style" (LAUGH!!) and in the process completely wrecking the original!!

By the way, "Call on Me" was originally a song by Steve Winwood named "Valerie" which actually had full lyrics to it rather than just repeating a fraction of the chorus which again proves my point that most artists these days don't have the talent to tie their own shoelaces let alone the creativity to come up with something better.




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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 18:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hate all of these modern bands. I like what my uncle says, "I don't like any music that is as new as my grandchildren."
Well, I don't know if he says that often, but I heard him say it once. ;-)


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Posted: 30 Jan 05, 20:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What really gets me is that their is SO much repetition in the music nowadays. Sure, everyone is entitled to their tastes I say, I don't argue with that, but why does hip hop/rap dominate the market??? Surely there can't be THAT many fans of it out there???? I watched the last Grammys and all it seemed to be was rap/hip hop or what they term r & b which in my opinion is not.

And it seems to me that both the singers and followers of such music have the most arrogant attitude, oh we are so hip and you are not, as if to say here we are in your face, we are going to be rude and annoying and if you don't like it well tough!! I suppose in "my day" the punk revolution was the equivalent but punksters pretty much kept to themselves.

Bill Cosby it put it well that Mozart's father would have probably said "Turn that crap down!" to Mozart when he was playing his own music. Its an age old argument that us old farts don't like new music. But there's no accounting for taste!!!


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