Forums > Queen - Serious Discussion > Queen On Fire vocal fix

forum rss feed
Author

KEVPAR user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 701 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 18 Feb 05, 05:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Has anyone noticed the vocal fix on Fat Bottom girls?

If you havent seen this gig before it was released on DVD you wont even notice as the fix is seamless...

However an edited version of this gig was screened as a tribute to Freddie in early 1992 i believe, and in that version during Fat Bottom Girls he sings a 'bum note' which seems to have been cunningly re-dubbed for the DVD release.

Does anyone know what I mean? please someone varify this so i dont look a fool hehe i have it on tape somewhere so i know it to be true...

Kev x


"It's just a ride" - Bill Hicks
Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 18 Feb 05, 05:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, this has been mentioned several times on this board. It's amazing how they can do this.


Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
KEVPAR user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 701 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 18 Feb 05, 07:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ah sorry :-S i thought it might have been bought up before...i must have missed it :S sorry to be repetative, just wondered thats all

Are there any other mods on this or any other Queen DVDs or anything which i have missed??

Kev x


"It's just a ride" - Bill Hicks
Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 19 Feb 05, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Officially, there are no overdubs whatsoever. But I am no expert, nor do I have the "original" concert. There are some more experienced guys here...


Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
flash00. user not visiting Queenzone.com
flash00.
Royalty: 1424 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 19 Feb 05, 12:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yea i noticed it,
who's noticed freddie on we will rock you concert 81 vid freddie singing killer queen and it looks like hes deffo miming it, strange b/c he's singing live on the rest of the show,:S


oo la la
Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 19 Feb 05, 15:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

THe We Will Rock You DVD has been put together from various concerts. The producers always changed the soundtrack. That's why it sometimes appears as if Fred's miming.


Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
Joma user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 388 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 19 Feb 05, 20:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Scirocco1977 wrote:

Officially, there are no overdubs whatsoever. But I am no expert, nor do I have the "original" concert. There are some more experienced guys here...


The Fat Bottomed Girls thing is a 'repair'. It's nicely done and sounds just great. I don't mind. Apart from that I didn't notice any 'overdubs'.


Live life to the full!
newcastle 86! 16483 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 639 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 19 Feb 05, 22:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

its a dub ive got the original no harm done tho me thinx...........


martinjkstones
Farlander user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 662 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 20 Feb 05, 14:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

On the "lo" of "locality" in the line "Ain't no beauty queens in this locality."

He goes up to hit the note, and his voice cracks badly.

Benn user not visiting Queenzone.com

Royalty: 1332 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 21 Feb 05, 11:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's another typical "lie" from the Queen camp - the spoken intro to Staying Power has also been cut meaning that it's not the "complete" performance it was sold to us as being.....


Benn
quackman user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 194 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 21 Feb 05, 12:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, they didn't dub over John Deacon's wrong note near the beginning of Under Pressure- it's very noticeable.

Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 21 Feb 05, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope David, a guy in a German forum does not mind if I put his link of the "locality"-voice crack of Freddie into this thread. So, for all of you who cannot believe that Freddie does have his problems now and then; here is it:(right-click and save target as...)

http://m-e-r-z.superprovider.de/mp3/fatbottem.mp3


Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
ernie user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 104 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 21 Feb 05, 18:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the link didn't work for me...is there another place i can find it?

and the overdub thing kinda bothers me a bit...i think i'd rather hear the original with the voice cracks and all...we don't wanna pretend like everything was just peachy

Mr Mercury user not visiting Queenzone.com
Adam who?????
Mr Mercury
Deity: 4632 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 21 Feb 05, 19:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

quackman wrote:

Well, they didn't dub over John Deacon's wrong note near the beginning of Under Pressure- it's very noticeable.


That happened cause he appeared to trip over a lead (prob Freddies mic lead). Quite funny IMO


"Normally i can't dance to save my life.

But as soon as I step in dog shit, I can moonwalk better than Michael Jackson."
jasen101 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 746 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 03:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

they really took some of the synths out...i noticed during under pressure there wasn't a distinct synth that was in on a tv show called "the tube" that aired the original broadcast.


Freddie: "Yes, we'll have a great big cock fly over the crowd!"

Roadies: "Yeah! Great Idea!"

Freddie: "And it will fly into a great big mouth with a moustache!"

KEVPAR user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 701 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 05:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah i think its original form would be cool, i mean yes i can understand perfectly why they have chosen to change little things here and there but, hey! its not like we would mind if they hadnt!!

Kev x


"It's just a ride" - Bill Hicks
Benn user not visiting Queenzone.com

Royalty: 1332 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 07:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I guess it all depends on what the reason for the fix was at the end of the day.

1 - To try to dupe people into thinking that the performance was faultless?

2 - To paint over a crack?

Personally, neither sits well with me; what they have done is like taking chords from the beginning of "It's Late" and deletng them (oh, yeah, they already did that once, right.....) or moving a track mark between two sequed numbers on an album (oh yeah, they did that too, didn't they).

It's amateurish in my view and designed to make the listener think that they are hearing something that they aren't.




Benn
Scirocco1977 user not visiting Queenzone.com

Bohemian: 533 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ernie wrote:

the link didn't work for me...is there another place i can find it?

and the overdub thing kinda bothers me a bit...i think i'd rather hear the original with the voice cracks and all...we don't wanna pretend like everything was just peachy


You don't have to follow the link! You have to click with the right mouse button, and choose "save target as"... the file you download is fatbottem.mp3


Keep 'em mowing blades sharp!
*goodco* user not visiting Queenzone.com

Royalty: 1129 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:
"I guess it all depends on what the reason for the fix was at the end of the day.

1 - To try to dupe people into thinking that the performance was faultless?

2 - To paint over a crack?"

I could agree with both sides of the discussion. If you've got the original telecast, and want to hear the glitches, you can. I prefer 'touched up' to annoyances left in. I can almost guarantee that the 'crash' during the Earl's Court 'You Take My Breath Away' will be edited from a DVD release. Kinda makes sense. I turned the record level to zero for that brief moment when taping it to cassette. If I want to hear it, and admire how Freddie kept his head afterwards, I can do this as well.

I'd be more than happy if they'd fix some things so that Houston '77 would be released. Beats having two or three shoddily recorded audio-only segments that do not cover the entire concert.

I'm actually more upset that they didn't use the original film during the 'Flash' intro. And didn't get rid of the idiotic video during the taped part of BoRhap.

Perhaps they could have included the actual 'glitched' version on the bonus disk, with the use of some different film footage in parts.

Back to glitches. Hell, KISS had to go into the studio to fix up 'Strutter' and a few other tracks that appeared on 'Alive'. With five nights of tapes from Cobo Hall in Detroit, they couldn't even splice together ONE 'respectable' version. So, one of the biggest selling live albums wasn't entirely 'live'.

joe and gang+






"Discretionary posting is the better part of valor." Falstaff
shmoopy user not visiting Queenzone.com

Be Gentle, I'm a newbie: 11 posts
add to buddy list send PM

Posted: 22 Feb 05, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it is pretty bad but i honestly don't mind. i'd rather they didn't cover it up. i mean, in Teo Torriatte on the other disc you can hear Roger's voice crack too but who cares? it's live for goodness sakes, u don't have to make everything so perfect