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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 19:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

EDIT: If you are just reading this for the first time now, I am not sending out anymore copies of the song mentioned in this topic's title. Please do not e-mail me for copies; I will not send out anymore.

Sorry.

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 20:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How do you mean standalone versions? Does that just mean their intros and outros are edited?

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 20:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



"Teo Torriate" was dedicated to the Japanese intern at KDHX here in St. Louis as she was leaving to go home the next day. Because of her, I became a Queen fan. How's that for sharing?

Maiko, you rock!

--Llewy, a faithful listener

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 21:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam Baboolal wrote:

How do you mean standalone versions? Does that just mean their intros and outros are edited?

Peace,
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They don't segue with whatever were the preceding tracks on their own respective albums (eg. the guitar bit that segues "The Prophet's Song" with 'LOML' on ANATO, and keyboards that segue IABD with MIH on the MIH album)

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 21:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam Baboolal: How do you mean standalone versions? Does that just mean their intros and outros are edited?

No - they are not TRUE stand alone versions. They just start at a more convenient point in the recording - which any segued-seperated track should on a multi-tracked CD.

For example: during the initial strident piano chord of "Love Of My Life" (Jewels II version), it is still possible to hear the very tail-end of the "Prophet's Song/Love Of My Heart" harp sound - if you listen out for it.

It is a "good edit" in that the song starts at a more logical point than the "Night At The Opera CD version", but at the same time - it is still the same track (ignoring the above post) but with a more precise starting point - ie the first TRUE "Love Of My Life" Piano Chord.

However, it is nothing which could not be achieved at home with a mini-disc player and a lot of patience!

Having said that, Jewels II is still a worthwhile purchase.



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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 21:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

Having said that, it is still a worthwhile purchase.


For once, I agree with you. It really is. Hence the reason I'm indefinitely halting downloads once it expires this weekend, as I myself am with you on this (and I apologize for having a go at you this weekend), and I really do want to see more people, if not some, buy this great CD!

I'm glad my friend bought it for me...

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 22:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMHO - Jewels II is not worth buying for Teo Torriate. It is also not worth stealing this song via download.


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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 22:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good words there, Alex.

Btw. I'm jealous that you're going to Japan.

Here's some Japanese words fer ya in the meantime:

Ohayo Gozaimasu! - Good Morning!
Konbanwa - Good evening
Oyasumi nasai - Good night
"Watashi wa Alex Solan desu" - "My name is Alex Solan"
Ja ne - See you later
Sayonara - Goodbye
Genki deska? - How are you?
Genki desu! - I'm fine!
Hajimemashte - Pleasure/nice to meet you (used when meeting someone for the first time only)


I'll list some more as they come to memory

Btw. What's going on in Argentina?

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 23:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're welcome.

I hope that the people there aren't as uptight as I hear, when I go to visit Japan next year (hopefully).

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Posted: 28 Feb 05, 23:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oic!

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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 00:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This Teo Torriate download is analagous to an after-hours bank heist:

"Uh ... da bankers don't need da money - der filty rich. Come on - No one gets hert. da govament insures all da money anyway."

This download repeatedly steals from QP (over 100 downloads???). This is massive fraud.

I will admit that I obtained illegal copies of the Queen Rocks Videos (never available in NTSC format) and Made in Heaven - The Films, but my thievery is miniscule compared to the blatent, massive and very public fraud perpetrated by Dark.

I am sure that if Queenzone or The Queen Hub get harrassed by legal authorities, that there will be many here at Queenzone that would rightfully blame Dark.

I urge all those who have not yet downloaded from Dark, to refrain from doing so. A slight remix is not worth stealing, especially when a massive fraud like this plays into the hands of the RIAA who continue to crack down on pirates and customers rather than look inward to improve music industry.


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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 11:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rippy, there's no point saying anything now. The damage is done, and there's hardly anyone left who hasn't asked me for a copy (bar the people like John, P_G, YV, and you, who obviously will never ask me for a copy, being the Stepfords you all are)

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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 11:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rip Van Winkle wrote:


I am sure that if Queenzone or The Queen Hub get harrassed by legal authorities, that there will be many here at Queenzone that would rightfully blame Dark.


That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I'm not responsible for shit on Queen HUB, as it is not my own to begin with. I'm merely a member of the HUB, so I cannot be blamed for it. (YV, on the other hand, COULD get in trouble should the proper authorities/lawyers take action, since SHE owns and runs it, after all)

And besides, I've only offered ONE MP3 compared to numerous others that people have offered over the past few years (did anyone complain when all the re-makes of WWRY and WATC got put up online, even though they were ON SHELF?? NO!!)

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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good point, Inu. There's a hate campaign against you and it's really disgusting. There have been and currently still are plenty of downloads that have come through Queenzone in one way or another. Many other individuals and groups are involved.

I wouldn't say you're part of the problem. Heck, we've all uploaded songs/videos we shouldn't have. Demos, b-sides, tv recordings, etc. etc. And these are no different from uploading/downloading a single track such as Teo Torriatte. Even some of Rien's innocent uploads on his site are copyrighted works.

RVB, if you really care about the whole illegal downloads thing and aren't trying to put it all on Inu, you'll stop downloading tracks from this site altogether. Otherwise, you're doing the exact same thing as Inu. We're all in the same boat...

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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 12:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have to agree with Rip Van Winkle: "This is massive fraud." Furthermore, each one of those downloads has the potential to spawn more illegal distributions.

What ...(a.k.a. Bum's Storm-pooper) fails to realise is that the proper authorites are specifically searching for this sort of abuse, and when caught, not only can he be fined for the distributed copies, BUT the POTENTIAL earnings of all the replicated downloads ALSO.

All electronic equipment in the building can be confiscated and destroyed, and finally, a prison sentence CAN also be enforced - thereafter (a.k.a. Bum's Torn-Pooper). Unfortunately, there is NO legal defence.

Rather than viewing me as "the enemy" in actual fact, I have been trying to protect you, and stop you from making a complete tw*t of yourself, because "...a massive fraud like this plays into the hands of the RIAA..."




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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam: Can I point out there is no "disgusting" "hate campaign against" anyone.

Although "There have been... plenty of downloads which have come through Queenzone...", NONE have been store-purchaseable products or MASS distributions, and while the hub remains essentially nameless, (a.k.a. Bum's Torn-Pooper) has tagged every copy he has distributed.

Personally, I don't think the RIAA are interested in minor infringements, and I am sure that the odd swap from ONE source to another is NOT worth their attention.

However, the cavalier MASS scale replication we have witnessed in here of late, WILL be ringing alarm-bells SOMEWHERE, and when old Dark-boy ends up on Canada's most wanted, it will be fun to watch all his newly acquired friends disapear as quickly as snow off a dyke.


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Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:


That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I'm not responsible for shit on Queen HUB, as it is not my own to begin with. I'm merely a member of the HUB, so I cannot be blamed for it. (YV, on the other hand, COULD get in trouble should the proper authorities/lawyers take action, since SHE owns and runs it, after all)



YV does not own or run the hub.


And besides, I've only offered ONE MP3 compared to numerous others that people have offered over the past few years (did anyone complain when all the re-makes of WWRY and WATC got put up online, even though they were ON SHELF?? NO!!)


It has to do with your attitude in all of this. You are illegally distributing one song that can be purchased legally, which other QZers have also done in the past (Annie Crummer, John Farnham, Five, Robbie Williams, all come immediately to mind). Is it fair that they were largely ignored while you are not? Perhaps. But did they start six different threads announcing what they were doing, reply at least five times that to said threads, call those who disagree with them "fucktards" and "stepfords," and blame others for all of this?

Personally, I think this is overblown. It's one track on a CD that is only available in one country; it's probably not enough to get QP to prosecute anyone. But don't kid yourself, Dark. You are still offering something illegally and are advertising it on a very public noticeboard. And I suspect this has more to do with ego than altruism.




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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

First of all, I don't own and run the hub, get your facts straight, Dark.

Secondly, since when am I a Stepford because I did not ask you for an mp3? If you don't mind, I collect the way I find it right and that is sure not asking you of all people for anything. And that is not a hate campaign, it's just my own private decision. I did not say anything about your spreading the song except that Queenzone is not responsible for it.


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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:



Although you correctly say "There have been and currently still are plenty of downloads that have come through Queenzone...", NONE of those have either been CURRENT Officially available store-purchaseable products or MASS fraudulent distributions by one individual.


In name of fairness, current official items have been shared on QZ in the past. Similar to Dark here, one user often posted a link to download these items. I can remember two users specifically who distributed Crummer's AOBTD remix and Farnham's WWRY. Who knows how many actually downloaded them at that time.


However, the cavalier MASS scale replication we have witnessed in here of late, WILL be ringing alarms some-place, and when old Dark-boy ends up on Canada's most wanted, it will be fun to watch all his newly acquired friends disapear as quickly as snow off a dyke.


I agree that that is the problem. The amount of users who popped out of the woodwork for this download was staggering to me, and I'm afraid it might attract unwanton attention from higher-ups.

Not to mention it made me hate leechers even more.


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Posted: 01 Mar 05, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zeni: What duck!!!?

I agree with your point, and perhaps I have painted my picture a little too bleakly.

However, theft is mainly about percentages. Steal one can of Coke from a store, and your chances of being caught are slim. Steal 24 cans every hour, over the next six weeks, and your chances of getting away with it, become even slimmer. The difference here is not the crime, but the frequency and magnitude.

If Dark was a little subtler, his chances of getting away with it - may similarly fit into the categories you mentioned, but his arrogant over-confidence MAY yet be his own undoing.

He has also left behind a trail of electronic crumbs, so if caught, the whole "leeching family" are going to topple along with him!



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