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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 12:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i was at this music store the other day and it was good cuz it had almost all of queen's releases but it also had a bunch of japanese imports of the studio albums. they had different packaging and some japanese written on the back but as far as i could tell they weren't any different from the normal albums...just way more expensive! has anyone ever seen these before and are they worth buying?

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 12:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Definitely not.... they are merely badly remastered versions of the 94 remasters - madness. too much compression - particularly on the higher frequencies, the lowest & highest frequencies appear to have been cut & whoever eq'd this set must be fucking deaf aswell

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 14:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oh thank goodness...i was this close to buying them :o

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 14:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Negative Creep wrote:

Definitely not.... they are merely badly remastered versions of the 94 remasters - madness. too much compression - particularly on the higher frequencies, the lowest & highest frequencies appear to have been cut & whoever eq'd this set must be fucking deaf aswell


That would be Justin Shirley-Smith's doing.

Either way, the 2001 remaster tracks on Queen: Jewels II sounds fine to me.

I have a sample put up, which there is a link to in this section.

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 14:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, to me, the Mini-LP versions of the albums sound BETTER than the '94 remasters. They are less harsh at the higher end and at the bottom, the sound is *richer* as opposed to deeper. I think they are also mastered slightly less *LOUD* than the '94 set. The packaging is also nicer (although the cover of Queen II still looks like a badly pasted cut out on a black background) and they make a nice departure from the standard jewel case in amongst the hundreds of others.......

So much so that I flogged all my '94 remasters on e-bay a couple of weeks ago after buying ALL the Mini-LP versions.


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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's the link for my edited sampler of Jewels II:

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34FNXZBG7XR8E1VX53JWZXD0CQ

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 15:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:

Here's the link for my edited sampler of Jewels II:

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34FNXZBG7XR8E1VX53JWZXD0CQ


thanks! yeah they do sound fine to me...they sound smoother in a sense and overall i wouldn't mind having them

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Posted: 04 Mar 05, 18:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You can order them from http://www.cdjapan.co.jp (CDJapan), or any other site that sells Japanese import CD's (though CDJ is one of the best!)

Regarding the remastered CD's: The ones originally recorded on analogue tape (Queen - Hot Space) are regarded as sounding the best out of all the remasters produced from around the world, so these would be the best copies if you're for improved re-mastered sound quality

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Posted: 05 Mar 05, 00:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

THE WORKS was also recorded in analog equipment.

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Posted: 05 Mar 05, 13:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wilki wrote:

THE WORKS was also recorded in analog equipment.


Yes, and so was Magic, but they were mixed down and mastered digitally.

I should post Justin Shirley-Smith's letter regarding this matter again...

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Posted: 05 Mar 05, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AKOM was definitely recorded digitally, The Works was originally recorded digitally but theres seems to be some confusion over this... I don't think the original vinyl or CDs were actually mastered from the digital masters but from an analogue master.

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Posted: 05 Mar 05, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well I have the UK Live Killers 2003 re-issue (A.K.A Japanese 2001). And it seems fine to me. If you want the Imports HMV are selling them for £17.


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Posted: 05 Mar 05, 16:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's my letter from Justin Shirley-Smith:

"Hi Richard

In answer to your questions.

The earliest digital tape in the Queen audio archive is dated 20th
September 1983. This is an F1 format cassette-tape of rough mixes from
The Works sessions which is stereo only.

The earliest digital multi-track tape in the Queen audio archive is
dated 18th September 1987. This is a DASH format tape which has 24
tracks. This tape contains transfers of various Brian songs from analog
tapes done at the time Brian first bought the machines - just prior to
The Miracle sessions.

Obviously, any type of tape damage (water, fire, heat, breakage etc)
could result in loss of information if serious enough, but he most
important thing to avoid is proximity to anything magnetic, such as a
loud speaker. A magnetic field will erase information from analog or
digital tapes because they are both magnetic media. This is the first
thing you learn in a recording studio for obvious reasons. Since
computer hard disks (+ floppy discs, jazz and zip etc) are also
magnetic media, they too are best kept away from magnetic fields.

In the beginning of automated mixing, the fader move data was recorded
on one track per pass alternately, using up two tracks of the
multi-track tape. In the Queen Audio archive this only happened on
Musicland tapes. Starting from The Works (recorded at The Record Plant
LA), one track of the multi-track tape was used to record time-code.
This technology comes from the movie industry and is used for
synchronising things together, such as music to picture and, in the
audio world, facilitated the first 48 track playback by synch'ing one
24 track tape to another 24 track tape. From memory, I think the first
48 track Queen songs are Hard Life and Hammer To Fall. The time code
was also used to allow a mix computer to recognise which part of the
tape was playing, and therefore which fader moves to perform. The fader
mix data was stored separately on computer disks of various kinds.
Automated mixing still works in the same way, by chasing time-code.


Best Wishes

Justin"



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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 08:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

>Well I have the UK Live Killers 2003 re-issue (A.K.A Japanese 2001). And it seems fine to me. If you want the Imports HMV are selling them for £17.

Alternatively, go to Queenonline and buy them as "Buy 1 get 1 free"


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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 08:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

So much so that I flogged all my '94 remasters on e-bay a couple of weeks ago after buying ALL the Mini-LP versions.

Did the same...! They sound MUCH better- love them

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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 09:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ernie wrote:

i was at this music store the other day and it was good cuz it had almost all of queen's releases but it also had a bunch of japanese imports of the studio albums. they had different packaging and some japanese written on the back but as far as i could tell they weren't any different from the normal albums...just way more expensive! has anyone ever seen these before and are they worth buying?


definately worth buying, but for a normal price. in european countries such as germany and the netherlands these discs go for approx approx. 16 euro/each. not a bad price i guess.

the sound is much better, the remastering job was done much better, the sleeves are very attractive and much better then the 1998 sleeve issues.

all in all, get them for a normal price if you can, you won't regret it.


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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 09:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, here's a thing.

The mini-lp series is supposed to replicate the original vinyl issues, right? Why, therefore, did the powers that be decide it would be *right* to have the bonus tracks that are on the original CD issues (ie bonus tracks on AKOM and Miracle)? Also was "Track 13" on the vinyl issue of MIH (I have no idea whether it was or not)? At the very least, the tradcklisting doesn't match the packaging......

Personally, I'd like to have also seen the discs "look" like vinyl as done on The Who's and The Stones singles box sets.

Other than that, I think they are amazing sounding - the tones are rich and full, with very little compression evident. There is also significantly less background hiss than on the '94 EMI remasters.

Has anyone gone through and translated each of the lyric sheets from Japanese to English?


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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I haven't heard the Japanese remasters, but the gold News of the World cd is incredible. I agree with the other posts, the '94 remasters suck.

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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 18:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

Has anyone gone through and translated each of the lyric sheets from Japanese to English?


Not that I know of