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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 12:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Impromptu on Live At Wembley Stadium, what do you all think?

I never get tired of hearing Freddie and the band improvise this entire song. Freddie literally scat sings the entire song,(and we all know nobody scat sings better than Freddie, --just listen to "Under Pressure")-- & Roger, Brian, John all show that they have a great flair at just having fun with playing music in a live setting, and creatively stretching out and kind of spurring one another on. It also has a Great jazz and rhythm vibe and its wonderful to hear how talented the band are at mastering yet another music style and cutting loose with it, making the song fun, breezy....and cool.


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Posted: 07 Mar 05, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agreed, it was fantastic. It really showed their talent as musicians, no doubt.

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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 02:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great post, except for the jazz reference... you call that jazz?



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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 12:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a Excellent song, this is my favourite Queen Album, it's the first album i bought so it's a special one, it's still my best, followed by all the other great albums.

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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 13:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yes! I do call that jazz, as in modern, cool jazz in the style of Ramsey Lewis, Sting in his modern zazz fusion 80's days with Branford Marsalis, George Benson, etc! and I think Queen nails it!


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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 13:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Spike played aswell. Can't forget Spike.


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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 19:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree. Spike Edney is a God! and he is a wonderful addition to the Queen artistic ensemble.

Also--gee, I could have sworn that I--did--say--jazz....fusion...! I wasn't trying to get into cerebral jazz purism/purists. I meant that Impromptu has those definite fusion jazz stylings that alot of artists experiment successfully with which was why I used Sting's mid 80's period when he worked with Branford Marsalis as an example.

Of course any jazz purist would probably snootily turn up their nose, to Sting's work then, but to me, any artist who melds and adapts any music style....as long as it sounds great...that's what matters...not adhering to some snooty purist idea.

Blues, jazz, rock, classical, country, who cares. If an artist integrates an element of any music genre into their music....and it sounds great...that's the ultimate statement in what matters.

So...call me a lousy jazz purist, I can handle it. I am a fan of Coltrane, Ella, Sarah Vaughan, Count Basie, (Eubie Blake, Cab Calloway, Billie Holladay who....purist lucky me, are from my home town, Baltimore, Maryland USA),--

But---I still love Queen's jazz leanings take on Impromptu!--Because it's just plain stunning!


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 10:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well hey there, fellow Baltimorian!

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 11:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, for two chords and Freddie screaming it's not bad, but I think it's a bit excessive to start calling it a great song.

You'll be saying Gimme Some Lovin has more lyrical creativity than Bo Rhap next.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 12:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie-B wrote:

You'll be saying Gimme Some Lovin has more lyrical creativity than Bo Rhap next.


I'd like to see you try to come up with two half-hearted verses that weren't even the original words and then garble the lyrics beyond comprehension!

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 13:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I LOVE Impromptu on Live At Wimbley! Brilliant song! Absolutely shows their talent ...


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 14:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's hardly improvised when they did it alot.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 14:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nope, one i skip. Not one of my faves though.


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

KittyCat wrote:

I LOVE Impromptu on Live At Wimbley! Brilliant song! Absolutely shows their talent ...


Well gee, as Rodney Dangerfield would say, yeah Give Queen some respect for "Impromptu". I didn't say or anywhere infer that it was anywhere in the realm of say, Bohemian Rhapsody or a masterpiece.

I just think it really shows how talented Queen is when they can literally pull a totally
non-sensical improvised bunch of musical chords, sequences, scat singing--out of thin air-- and off the top of their head, improvising in the moment, and make something cohesive, coherent, melodic, and downright musically/sonically good.

How many of you in the peanut gallery can pull that off and do that, eh!

Not so easy is it, huh!

--Can you imagine the outakes from their records that showcase what basically is the band fooling around and kidding around, or warming up, but might sound like jewels to alot of us if we could have the opportunity to hear this stuff!--


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 22:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree, great performance of the song.

I just wish the video footage was better -- would it have killed the director to cut to the band at some point??

(slightly off topic, I know, but hey I'm a video guy, I notice these things)


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 00:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Impromptu was anything but impromptu. It was all planned and mapped out. Not one damn part of that song was thought up on the fly. And I think some of you are getting a little silly with the whole " Freddie's the best scat singer ever! No one's ever been as good a scat singer as him!" bullshit. I know we're all fans...why else would we be here? But there is a limit to the amount of Freddie ass kissing that you can dish out without being called on it. Let's get real. Queen is not a jazz band and Impromptu is anything but.


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 09:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just why precisely is it not jazz?

How do you personally know that it was not improvised?


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 11:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

--Good Grief guys, get a grip! Again I never said Impromptu is going to re-write jazz history!--

--Chuckle! chuckle.--

--Let's not get too serious about all this. It's just a fun song, done well, that owes some of it's flavor to jazz.--

---As for calling me a Freddie ass kisser,--

---I kiss no one's ass but my own thank you very much.---

---But, I do give credit where it's due --

--(For me, to Freddie!)--and I'm sure everyone out there has some music artist or performer, considered a legend or considered to be just an everyday performer, that all of you out that are ga ga about and admire.--

--That's what makes us individuals and creates great open discussions and differences of opinion as on Richard's wonderful forum here.---

--------Hey, by the way Richard, let me give credit where it's also due, to you, for giving all of us this great open discussion forum.---
--------Thank you.---Take a bow!!!!

--P.S. Bet no one out there ever would have known that, what a surprise!--

--I was on my High School Debate Team!--Ya think!


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 11:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

--oh...and I still think Freddie is an outstanding scat singer...--for NON jazz music but for rock/pop music.--

--No, I mean this. But that's my subjective opinion, and all of you out there I'm sure have tons of artists you also think are great scat singers.--

--I also think these NON jazz artists are great scat singers.....Stevie Wonder, Doyle Bramhall II, Bette Midler--

--but for jazz, the real Queen of scat singing is of course the wonderful Ella Fitzgerald....--

--and for male jazz singers, the king is Mel Torme "the velvet fog" who was one of a kind and he used to duet with Ella alot!.---


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 14:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.MadGuy wrote:

Impromptu was anything but impromptu. It was all planned and mapped out. Not one damn part of that song was thought up on the fly. And I think some of you are getting a little silly with the whole " Freddie's the best scat singer ever! No one's ever been as good a scat singer as him!" bullshit. I know we're all fans...why else would we be here? But there is a limit to the amount of Freddie ass kissing that you can dish out without being called on it. Let's get real. Queen is not a jazz band and Impromptu is anything but.

well said Mr Mad