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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 21:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One of the best intro ever made by any rock & Roll band, but at the same time is one of the worst Queen song. I love the intro by Freddie, so inspiring, vocally it sounds perfect but when Roger starts singing he kills the song and my mood.


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Posted: 08 Mar 05, 22:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see what you're saying. I like it, though.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 02:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love that song, but it did take a while to grow on me. I think Roger and Freddie sound great together, especially since you only usually hear them together on live recordings.


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 04:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Gunpowder Gelatine wrote:

I love that song, but it did take a while to grow on me. I think Roger and Freddie sound great together, especially since you only usually hear them together on live recordings.


Roger's voice annoys me when i hear him and Freddie live together mostly because to me, his voice sounds like he's got a sore throat or something and he's struggling to sing. Thats just me though.


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 07:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I personally like Roger's voice, but I know a lot of others that are annoyed by it.

If I pop in "The Game" while we have friends over, these casual listeners love the whole album....except for Rock It and Sail Away Sweet Sister....

They always say "Where is Freddie"?

My one friend, who is a huge Led Zep fan, who would probably rank Queen as his 4th or 5th favorite band always whines to me "Why in the hell is Freddie not singing 3 or 4 songs on News Of The World, which otherwise be a very near perfect album"?

The Rock It intro is great.....another song Fred should have sung. I don't mind Roger on some songs...."Love with my Car" , "Drowse"...etc..

But when you are in a band with Freddie, there is no reason why Roger or Brian should have a huge catalog of songs they sang.

There is a reason why McCartney sang 44 of the Beatles hits.....and Ringo sang 4 songs total.

Same rule applies here.


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 09:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think Ringo sang more than 4 songs. He got to sing one song per album, except for "Let It Be". I think it's fair to Roger and Brian that they should sing their own songs.

Even Keith Richards and Bill Wyman got to sing their own songs, fer crying out loud.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 13:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rock It is class. Rogers voice is great! Shame on you! :P


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 21:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

Even Keith Richards and Bill Wyman got to sing their own songs, fer crying out loud.


I didn't know that. But I don't listen to the Rolling Stones either (very rarely)

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 21:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i like it, i think its a pretty good song, the intro is good but i like the beat the best


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 22:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:

I didn't know that. But I don't listen to the Rolling Stones either (very rarely)


Indeed. Also, Pete Townshend, John Entwistle, and Keith Moon all sang, and not even all on their own songs! George Harrison sang a song by John Lennon, Dave Davies occasionally sings not only his songs, but also Ray Davies', and even Ronnie Lane and Ron Wood sing on a few of The Faces' recordings.

It's called diversity, people - I'd be bored stiff if Freddie sang all the songs. I'd much rather Roger sang 'Ride The Wild Wind', or Brian sang 'Who Wants To Live Forever', as it adds a nice bit of diversity. Who cares if you've got one of the greatest lead vocalists in the world in a band - time after time, you want a bit of change in the music you listen to.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 22:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The difference is this:

Example 1: if Ringo Starr sings a Beatles tune, then you have..

Vocals & Drums: Ringo
Rhythm Guitar: Lennon
Bass: McCartney
Lead Gutar: Harrison

In Example 2, lets take "Drowse" for example, a Roger tune, then you have:

Vocals & Drums: Taylor
Bass: Deacon
Guitar, Slide guitar: May

...and, hmmm..something is missing??
What could it be??

There's no piano in this song, nor a back-up vocal.... so let me get this straight:
The greatest rock singer in the world (based on 3 different fan and critic polls that I know of) is standing over in the corner whacking his pud.

AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Aeosmith, Lynyrd Skynyrd..etc..etc have all made into the rock-n-roll with one person singing.


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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 23:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually think there is a piano in 'Drowse'.

Regarding 'Don't Pass Me By':
Vocals & drums: Ringo Starr
Bass guitar & piano: Paul McCartney
Violin: some session musician

'Long Long Long':
Vocals & acoustic guitar: George Harrison
Bass guitar, piano & organ: Paul McCartney
Drums: Ringo Starr

'Yesterday':
Vocals & acoustic guitar: Paul McCartney
Strings: quartet


Big deal. Your point is moot. I'm sure if Freddie didn't like it, he would've raised a fuss.

edit: Why haven't you complained over the lack of Brian on several songs? He doesn't appear on 'My Melancholy Blues', 'Seaside Rendezvous', 'Cool Cat', or 'One Year Of Love'.

Or the lack of John on 'Fight From The Inside' and 'Sheer Heart Attack'? Or Roger on half the songs from Hot Space that have drum machines on them?

The way all of Queen's songs were recorded were done for a reason. If there was something they didn't like about it, it would've either been redone or shelved completely - just like with any band.

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Posted: 09 Mar 05, 23:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Chamo25 wrote:

One of the best intro ever made by any rock & Roll band, but at the same time is one of the worst Queen song. I love the intro by Freddie, so inspiring, vocally it sounds perfect but when Roger starts singing he kills the song and my mood.


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 00:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester,

I understand all members can't be involved 100% in every song (project).

However, in the real world we know that the average listener will take much more note of a Queen song that is missing Freddie, then one that is missing any other member.

If you have a song on an album that Brian or Roger sang, its really not Queen..... its "well, Brian has this tune of HIS that "he" wants to do...it won't be released as a single, but its kind of catchy".

The ever so modest Freddie (he actual was) probably told Brian or Roger "Hell darling, you sound better than me, just sing the damn thing".

And I don't have a problem with this....
I really don't.

Here's where things get tricky
If I pop in Queen's "The Game"....many passive listeners I have over to my house will comment on the music I play.

The Game has 2 songs that I find to be very similar, both of which are 2 of Brian's 3 songs on "The Game"....they are:
1) Sail Away Sweet Sister
2) Save Me

Both songs I love, both songs sound great....Freddie is the pianist on both songs, Freddie sings "Save Me", Brian sings "Sail Away Sweet Sister" (except the middle where Fred does a quick Brian impersonation).

When this cd plays, and its on random...."Save me" will come on, and passive listeners will say "This is Queen too, wow, this is a really good song".

"Sail Away Sweet Sister" comes on.....and everyones like, "What's wrong with his voice?"

Then I have to explain that its "the guitar player" singing this one....not Freddie.

The conclusion is always the same with everyone from my mother to my best friends girl.... they say: IT DOESN'T SOUND BAD, BUT WHY DIDN'T FREDDIE SING IT??

Keep in mind folks....Queen was not a band like the Beatles that had 2 great singers (Lennon & McCartney) and one very good singer (Harrison) and one acceptable singer (Ringo).

Queen has one astoundingly excellent singer (Mercury) and 2 others that are good (Taylor & May).

I can deal with the number of Queen songs that are sung by Brian and Roger, as it isn't too many..... but anymore would be too much for me.

All of my friends claim Innuendo as their favorite.... now we aren't talking about knowledgeble music dorks like ourselves....we are talking about average Joe Blow listeners that don't care the members names, or who played what.

I asked one friend why Innuendo was his favorite of all the Queen stuff I let him borrow...his answer:

"Thats the one where that really awesome singer sings every song...didn't you say he died a few years ago?"


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 02:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's another reason why Queen's so great. 3 of the 4 members can sing. WHY is that so hard to understand? To quote Jim Morrison: "People are strange".


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 04:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What I thought was funny, when I was playing some Brian-sung Queen track....I forget which....and my brother over heard it and asked me who the guy doing a bad Freddie Mercury impression was.......

keeping in mind my brother dont know a damn about Queen....


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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

King of Rye...

I've had that before...

I was playing "Sleeping on the sidewalk" one night, and a co-worker said...

"Don't tell me, now you are listening to Queen cover bands now"?



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Posted: 10 Mar 05, 23:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Leppar wrote:

Rock It is class. Rogers voice is great! Shame on you! :P

Perfectly said.
His voice goes perfectly with the song.


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Posted: 11 Mar 05, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i love this song! however i do like Dont lose your head *everyone throws tomatoes at Liz*. but still, there are course much better songs...


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Posted: 11 Mar 05, 17:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see what you mean.
It isn't one of my favorite Queen songs, that's for sure. But for some reason, everytime I hear it, which ironically, I've been doing a lot of lately, it seems to get me into a better mood. Sorta lively and energetic, if you will. But that does not mean that it is the best song. No way.
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