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Posted: 16 Mar 05, 11:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love Brian's dedication on "Queen On Fire Live At The Bowl" at Milton Keynes.

Right before he and Freddie perform "Love Of My Life", Brian says quote "I'd like to dedicate this particular song...to all those people...no matter where they come from, people who have given up their lives to what they believe."

I think that dedication...and using it for that song which could be taken to mean a literal human love or a love in anyone's heart of and for a goal, a dream... (like alot of Queen's songs, written by all of the members, as well as alot of Brian's solo songs...(ie:Both Queen & Brian solo--"Keep Passing The Open Windows", "Hero", "Back To The Light", etc), are a wonderful constant theme throughout Queen's music...having faith, hope, never giving up, following your dreams.

But it meant more having Brian personally say it when introducing the song. Lovely of him and a lovely sentiment.


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Posted: 16 Mar 05, 13:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed.


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 12:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I though it was to do with the Falklands War which ended about the same time as the gig.

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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

wilk wrote:

I though it was to do with the Falklands War which ended about the same time as the gig.


Queen was never a political band, but when the Falklands conflict was going on they strongly opossed to it. They voiced their opinion particularly due to their visit to Argentina, and called towards a diplomatic solution to the conflict.

As Freddie (I think) said back then: "It's our young men killing their young men, it just doesn't make sense".


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 14:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles79 wrote:

wilk wrote:

I though it was to do with the Falklands War which ended about the same time as the gig.


Queen was never a political band, but when the Falklands conflict was going on they strongly opossed to it. They voiced their opinion particularly due to their visit to Argentina, and called towards a diplomatic solution to the conflict.

As Freddie (I think) said back then: "It's our young men killing their young men, it just doesn't make sense".


You might be right about this. As right before Brian says the actual dedication, he strums a few chords on the guitar of "Las Palabras De Amor", and then right before the dedication, he says, quote,

"Since we're not playing our song of peace tonight"...and then he says the Dedication quote intro. to and for "Love Of My Life"...

"I'd like to dedicate this particular song...to all those people...no matter where they come from, people who have given up their lives to what they believe."

Now I understand what he may have meant or he may have meant this as well as the song being about..many things, the end of The Falklands War, world peace, never giving up, having hope, faith, believing in and pursuing your dreams, it could be taken to mean and encompass many things for Brian & Queen to express to people all over the world....


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 15:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally, I think it has more to do with the death of John Lennon the year before than anything to so with the Falklands Conflict - a large majority of the troops that fought that war fought simply because they *had to* as opposed to fighting because they cared a toss about a remote part of the planet that Britain claimed as their own.

If you listen to the passages before his intro, Brian plays some chhords from Life Is Real....


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

Personally, I think it has more to do with the death of John Lennon the year before than anything to so with the Falklands Conflict - a large majority of the troops that fought that war fought simply because they *had to* as opposed to fighting because they cared a toss about a remote part of the planet that Britain claimed as their own.

If you listen to the passages before his intro, Brian plays some chhords from Life Is Real....


Sounds like passages from "Las Palabras De Amor" to me. See my post above yours.. Now you got me wondering.


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 17:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was wondering what the "song of peace" was.
I know he plays bits of "Las...", but they NEVER played that.
Could he have been talking about Life is Real?


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 18:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lennon was killed in 1980 this was 82, i see your point tho benn, but i feel it was to do with the falklands.


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Posted: 17 Mar 05, 18:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

kohuept wrote:

I was wondering what the "song of peace" was.
I know he plays bits of "Las...", but they NEVER played that.
Could he have been talking about Life is Real?


From what I have heard, Brian & the all the members of Queen think of "Las.." as their song of peace because the lyrics, though literally are a love song...they include these universal lyrics (SEE BELOW) that all people all around the world should put aside their petty conflicts and differences (;ie; fear, greed), and just love one another...

Here's the passage from Brian's song...quote

"One foolish world, so many souls
Senselessly hurled through the never ending cold
And all for fear, and all for greed
Speak any tongue but for God's sake we need
Las palabras de amor
Let me hear words of love
Despacito mi amor"



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Posted: 18 Mar 05, 04:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Arlene,

Re:

>From what I have heard, Brian & the all the members of Queen think of "Las.." as their song of peace because the lyrics, though literally are a love song...they include these universal lyrics (SEE BELOW) that all people all around the world should put aside their petty conflicts and differences (;ie; fear, greed), and just love one another...

But, in the real world, we all know that this is just not possible. no matter how much *we* want there to be harmony and peace int he world, *they* will ensure that never happens.

Look at the IRA - what would those people actually *DO* if they disbanded? Would they change tack and be recruited into the police or into legitimate political parties? Of course not - they couldn't be trusted.

Look at Africa - the AIDS crisis will never be solved as there is no apparent way of educating people and the money that IS allocated for that ourpose appears to be purloined by local Governments in order for them to live in their ivory towers and / or fund their various wars.

BONO can shout all he likes about eliminating third world debt, but does that equally mean that, in the interest of fairness, my bank should eliminate my credit card debt? If countries live and spend beyond their means, surely they have to be responsible and accountable for that.


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Posted: 18 Mar 05, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

Arlene,

Re:

>From what I have heard, Brian & the all the members of Queen think of "Las.." as their song of peace because the lyrics, though literally are a love song...they include these universal lyrics (SEE BELOW) that all people all around the world should put aside their petty conflicts and differences (;ie; fear, greed), and just love one another...

But, in the real world, we all know that this is just not possible. no matter how much *we* want there to be harmony and peace int he world, *they* will ensure that never happens.

Look at the IRA - what would those people actually *DO* if they disbanded? Would they change tack and be recruited into the police or into legitimate political parties? Of course not - they couldn't be trusted.

Look at Africa - the AIDS crisis will never be solved as there is no apparent way of educating people and the money that IS allocated for that ourpose appears to be purloined by local Governments in order for them to live in their ivory towers and / or fund their various wars.

BONO can shout all he likes about eliminating third world debt, but does that equally mean that, in the interest of fairness, my bank should eliminate my credit card debt? If countries live and spend beyond their means, surely they have to be responsible and accountable for that.


I quite agree with you. The reality is, war, hate, greed, intolerance, injustice is part of the wages of man since mankind began.

But it was still a positive, hopeful, and genuine thought of Brian's to share with the audience in his dedication.

I'd rather hear him say something positive, as I also would Bono or Bob Geldof, than the kind of crap that rap artists say to their fans at a live performance or in their song lyrics...about F*** you this and F*** you that and kill this and that and beat women, etc.


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Posted: 18 Mar 05, 21:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm sure Brian dedication it's about Falklands war. The gig was on june 5, and the war was in a high point with many british ships getting sunk and heavy argentinian casualties.

Freddie maybe didnt talk about political things, but in this case he made an exception, as Mr.Jingles79 remind us above. But if your country is currently at war with a country that you knew well a short time ago, it's obvious you cannot be indifferent to the reality of the moment. And "las palabras.." was - at that time - something to be related close to a peace song.

We i was a kid i thought that "las palabras de amor" was the story of a soldier in the falklands and his desire of come back. It wasn`t, but with a little bit of imagination can be that

I don`t remember any Queen member doing such dedication in other gigs, after 1982 and neither before. Maybe after Lennon's death but in that case the dedication was through a live cover.


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Posted: 19 Mar 05, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they would have to have been a lot closer to Lennon than they were for it to have still been a major tribute in their gigs 2 years later, especially when there was a major war going on at the time of the gig, the evidence points to Falklands, in my opinion.

Why were we fighting over the falklands anyway? Strategic sheep purposes?

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Posted: 19 Mar 05, 12:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jajaja, strategic sheeps, that`s good one.

In a quick and incomplete resume, the Falklandas war started , on april 2, when Argentina invaded the islandas in an attempt of the military governmet to turn aside the internal problems of Argentina, and gain support form people. Of course the military gov. thought that Britain would never send troops.

But Thatcher needed to recover some popularity as well, and that was the oportunity.

Those islandas have been in constant reclamation from Argentina since 1833, im argentinian and we think our reclamation is fair, although the war which was kicked off because a drunk general wanted to recover support, and never planned a thing, so a lot of young argies of 18 years old with little military instruction were sent there, and despite they fought harder.

And its logical to think that Queen fans were there. My former karate teacher went to see Queen in 1981 and the next year he was fighting at Goose Green battle (27th-29th may 1982). The war finished on june 15.

Well, this is not the place to talk about geopolitical things but i think that was someting important to add.


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