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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 14:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I LOVE the film "Metropolis" (the original 1920's Black & White Silent film directed by Fritz Lang.

Apparently, Mr. Freddie had Outstanding taste and loved this film too.

He was influenced by and used it as an influence for these songs...

Imagery & original clips in the Queen video "Radio Ga Ga".

Imagery & Original clips in Freddie's solo song "Love Kills."

Freddie performed "Love Kills" for the actual International 1980's re-release of a colorized version of the film "Metropolis" which swapped the orchestral score in the silent film for a contemporary soundtrack.

Don't you find it artistic and intelligent that Freddie was so fond of and so heavily influenced by what is considered to be one of the most seminal, influential and significant films in the history of cinema...

...that he utilized "Metropolis" in both Queen videos, Freddie's solo videos, and that the Producers of the 1980's re-release of "Metropolis" realized this and then thus asked Freddie to perform a song for the film's soundtrack?






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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is there a Question somewhere in there?


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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 15:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've got one: WTF?

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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ok wise asses!!!! My computer screwed up & locked before I could post my question, which is now there!!


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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 16:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was the other way round. Giorgio Moroder was the owner of Musicland Studios, where Freddie recorded his Mr. Bad Guy album with Mack. Giorgio asked Freddie for a contribution to the Metropolis music and Freddie contributed Love Kills. The 1984 version of Metropolis was all Giorgio's baby and I would be surprised if Freddie ever heard about the movie before Giorgio asked him for the song.


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Posted: 22 Mar 05, 16:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

YourValentine wrote:

It was the other way round. Giorgio Moroder was the owner of Musicland Studios, where Freddie recorded his Mr. Bad Guy album with Mack. Giorgio asked Freddie for a contribution to the Metropolis music and Freddie contributed Love Kills. The 1984 version of Metropolis was all Giorgio's baby and I would be surprised if Freddie ever heard about the movie before Giorgio asked him for the song.


Thanks much! Interesting! I wonder then seeing as how if Freddie had never heard of or seen the movie prior to Giorgio Moroder approaching him for the soundtrack, that Freddie then DID become fascinated with it and include it in "Radio Ga Ga". Hmmm.


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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 01:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Thanks much! Interesting! I wonder then seeing as how if Freddie had never heard of or seen the movie prior to Giorgio Moroder approaching him for the soundtrack, that Freddie then DID become fascinated with it and include it in "Radio Ga Ga". Hmmm.


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, which I believe is uncalled for, so I am going to say the following:

... If I recall correctly, Radio Ga Ga's theme is about the masses being mindless, without souls, and lacking integrity in culture. At the least, you can say the song and video are similar because of the messed up societies (the mindless, soul-less masses). Sure seems fitting to me. This also seems fitting to Brian May, who in review of the video (GVH2) had this to say: "the song is recognition that things are getting very machanized and meaningless and people are becoming robots". Now, if you compare this to Metropolis (or at least what I remember of it, haven't seen it in a while), isn't that rather similar? So why not use it?

Keep in mind, video inspirations didn't have to have connected roots AT ALL. Take the pink marching corseteers. They were randomly inspired by a Nazi documentary. What does that have to do with being born to love someone? Not much that doesn't take manipulation of rational thought. So, I guess you're lucky with this one. Radio Ga Ga makes sense.

A final thought is in regard to the fact that when Queen wrote songs for films, clips usually ended up in the music videos (for Flash, Highlander). It's a marketing tool. Two birds with one stone. Promote both Queen and the movie. Everybody gets a little something and goes home happy.

I have a question about your question. Which solo video was Metropolis used in? I cannot recall. Please refresh my memory.

PS - Glad you have found the edit button (so you DID read what I said and didn't reply to it! I've found you out now! Moo-ah-ah-ah!).

And don't call my friends wise asses. That is unnecessary hostility.




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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 02:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Unless they actually are Univeristy educated asses, that is.


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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Victoria wrote:

arlene wrote:


Thanks much! Interesting! I wonder then seeing as how if Freddie had never heard of or seen the movie prior to Giorgio Moroder approaching him for the soundtrack, that Freddie then DID become fascinated with it and include it in "Radio Ga Ga". Hmmm.


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, which I believe is uncalled for, so I am going to say the following:



I was NOT being sarcastic. I meant what I said.

I was quite interested in what Your Valentine informed me of, and so then it dawned on me that once Freddie saw "Metropolis" it seems as though he did in fact like it and so then he thought it would work out great for "Radio Ga Ga".




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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 13:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

According to Phoebe's book Freddie wasn't very much into cinema, he thought it was boring. Funny story when he watched the Neverending Story with his boy-friend in Munich. It was German and he couldn't understand, so Barbara had to translate evreything for him. He kept going 'What does he say? What did they say?' and the rest of the cinema-people where not amused!
But he liked the Big Screen movies of Grand Hollywood and some 50s films (Some Like It Hot was his favourite).


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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 13:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard Freddie didnt even watch the whole film and grew bored half way through. > >


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Posted: 23 Mar 05, 14:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Unless they actually are Univeristy educated asses, that is.


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Posted: 24 Mar 05, 12:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So maybe Freddie wasn't knowledgable of "Metropolis" before Moroder approached him, but like I said, once Freddie knew about the film, he did use it for "Radio Ga Ga".

Interesting that alot of music artists have also been influenced by or used "Metropolis" as a basis for their work.

Madonna used it for her video for "Express Yourself" where she recreated certain scenes, imagery, sets, and at the end of the video, she put the caption that ends "Metropolis" as well, I can't remember what it says word for word...but it's something to the effect about that the heart is important...more than machines and the 2 must live in co-existance, yada yada.

Janet Jackson recreated the imagery, clothes, sets in her "Rhythm Nation" video as well.

So I didn't mean to go off about Freddie, I just thought it was interesting and I like that Moroder DID approach Freddie and then Freddie kind of took off with it from there.


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Posted: 27 Mar 05, 11:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not only the "Radio ga ga" video - whole scenography for WORKS tour was based on one famous scene from "Metropolis". And it was a breathtaking!

I love that movie and I'm admirer of Fritz Lang.
But I could write for days about Metropolis and everything related to it (including Queen), so I'll stop right now. :)

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Posted: 27 Mar 05, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Read again: whole scenography for WORKS tour was based on one famous scene from "Metropolis".

Are you familiar with WORKS scenography? Have you seen Metropolis?

If your answers are "no" - then what are you talkin' about?!?
If your answers are "yes" - then what are you talkin' about?!?

Ofcourse that many things about WORKS are based upon / inspired by - METROPOLIS. (And there is another cult album inspired by that movie - KRAFTWERK's "The man-machine".)

What does it means anyway, that expression "the same THEME as Metropolis"? If it looks like Metropolis, than it IS Metropolis. Right?