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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 12:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alot of you in all of our discussions about the Queen+Paul Rodgers Tour and discussions of Both Brian's & Roger's solo work...have brought up well WHY doesn't John Deacon start a solo career/band and do his solo stuff with Brian & Roger?

Well, in 1986, John who has discussed that one thing that has held him back in a solo career, is that unlike Brian & Roger, he does NOT sing, formed a band of his own...just when Freddie, Brian, & Roger were also all pursuing solo projects.

In 86' John formed a solo band called The Immortals and the band really came about as John was commissioned to write and record music for a film called "Biggles". John & The Immortals recorded 1 song only (which I have NEVER seen or heard), called "No Turning Back".

The band broke up right after doing just that 1 song. Can ANYONE tell me if they have ever seen a copy of this song, heard it, who sings lead vocals, and...is it any good?

Based on just one song, good or bad though...don't you think John should have given things more of a go and tried harder and longer?

Here in the USA, we have several guitar players who Do NOT sing, but have hit bands and records, such as The Derek Trucks Band, Kenny Wayne Shepherd (who after over a very suuccessful decade and run of records with another lead singer working with him), finally just released his FIRST record where he (Kenny) sings, and the critics say it's great and that Kenny should have had more faith in his own vocal talents and tried sooner.

Anyhow...all of this is in relation to John...I mean you can't base a solo career or any career on just 1 song. Geez, if Queen had done that, or most artists, they would never get anywhere.

What's your viewpoints, and also let me know if you have seen a copy of and heard "No Turning Back" and what you think of it.


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's very 1980s - programmed drums, twangy bass, cheesy lyrics. Sounds very much like a song for a movie (which it was), and not something I'd really give a second listen to.

I would be interested to see John go into a solo career, but I get the feeling he's not interested. The only reason he would have back when he was in Queen was only to pass the time until the band went on the road again or went back into the studios, but he contributed very little actual songs to the last two albums. And most of Innuendo was recorded without his contribution until late in the stage, as he was on vacation in Biarritz for a few months, so something tells me he doesn't exactly have the desire to be in the music industry anymore.

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 14:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, we have the vinyl.

Much prefer his 'Man In The Shadows' vinyl LP. Looking forward to the Japanese remaster, with added bonuses, coming out later this year.


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree. It's time that 'Man In The Shadows' finally get's a proper new release. I am looking forward to it.


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually have a very poor quality rip of the bonus tracks, but none of them have been given titles yet as far as I know. Anybody know what the bonus tracks are (or can email me some better quality ones)?

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 15:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have the 7" vinyl single of "No Turning Back". I bought this for $45 US back around 1999/2000 (during the Christmas period). I got this from someone in the UK.

It's actually collectible just for the cover alone, with John in WW2 airfighter gear (which he wears in the video).

The song is good, though it failed to chart in the UK singles charts.

The video can be found as a bonus on the "Biggles" movie DVD (UK only). It's OK, IMO.

The video and the song can be found in the HUB.

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 15:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When was "Man In The Shadows" originally released, and is it available on CD?

Anybody have a track listing?

Anybody have production credits...what John plays, writes, etc.

Other musicians on the release, and who plays what, etc.


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As is "Hiding In Public", the 'follow-up' to "Man In The Shadows"

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 16:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

YourValentine: "It's time that 'Man In The Shadows' finally get's a proper new release. I am looking forward to it."

Respectfully, I disagree. Unless they include the 7/12" remixes and bonus tracks, I think this will sink deeper second time around, than it did the first time it was released.

I mean, look at Roger Taylor. No "...Testify" or "...TV" on "Fun In Space", and no 12" or 7" mixes or "...Pencils" on Man On Fire.

I want a 2xCD Set. If It's good enough for Queen, It's good enough for the Deakster ;-)


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 16:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In the meantime, while I'm uploading the MP3 of "No Turning Back", here are the credits from the single sleeve (that relate to the Immortals, not including movie credits):

Performed by The Immortals
Featuring Robert Ahwai · John Deacon · Lenny Zakatek

No Turning Back
Robert Ahwai / John Deacon

Taken from the Original Motion Picture Sound Track Album · Biggles
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You can see the 12" single cover at:

http://www.queenpicturehall.com/singles/i01ntb.shtml

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://rapidshare.de/files/1003891/The_Immortals_-_No_Turning_Back.mp3.html

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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 17:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"I want a 2xCD Set. If It's good enough for Queen, It's good enough for the Deakster ;-)"

You are right, John. But we both know it would be a true miracle if it happened:)


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 17:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:

In the meantime, while I'm uploading the MP3 of "No Turning Back", here are the credits from the single sleeve (that relate to the Immortals, not including movie credits):

Performed by The Immortals
Featuring Robert Ahwai · John Deacon · Lenny Zakatek

No Turning Back
Robert Ahwai / John Deacon

Taken from the Original Motion Picture Sound Track Album · Biggles
__________________________________________________________________

You can see the 12" single cover at:

http://www.queenpicturehall.com/singles/i01ntb.shtml



Thanks very much, I printed this just now!

I'm going to dinner now...I will try to listen to the MP3 tomorrow!! Thanks again!!!!


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Posted: 25 Mar 05, 18:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://rapidshare.de/files/1005319/The_Immortals_-_No_Turning_Back__The_Joy-Stick_Mix_.mp3.html

The 12" version

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Posted: 26 Mar 05, 05:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have the DVD of the film and has the vidoe as part of the extras - only reason I bought it.


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Posted: 26 Mar 05, 05:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the singer sounds like a later-years (not singin quite as high, that is) Geddy Lee......somewhat at least


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Posted: 26 Mar 05, 19:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

RohemianBapsody wrote:

I have the DVD of the film and has the vidoe as part of the extras - only reason I bought it.


I bet you bought it for the Blue Peter "making of" documentary's as well - come one - admit it!


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Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:

http://rapidshare.de/files/1003891/The_Immortals_-_No_Turning_Back.mp3.html


Thank you! :)

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Posted: 27 Mar 05, 10:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Inu Yasha (a.k.a. Lum's Stormtrooper) wrote:

As is "Hiding In Public", the 'follow-up' to "Man In The Shadows"


Yeah, I saw "sleeves" of those two "albums" at the picture gallery, and at first sight I was like - "WHAT THA PHUCK...??!??" - and than I acually activated my brain functions and laughed! :) Good joke!

p.s. - Don't know who did the artwork, but design of those sleeves is really good! :))

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Posted: 27 Mar 05, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Cheers Richard, I did have these ages ago, but lost them and couldn't find them again. These are probably better quality...

Anyone got the The Chocks-Away Mix?

I've also seen a track on audiofind.ru by The Immortals called Encounter the Ultimate, but can never seen to download it. Anyone know if it features Deacy?...


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