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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

does anyone know where i can get the version of metropolis with love kill in the soundtrack?


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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 13:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was at Tower records yesterday trying to find it myself. They didn't have it so I went to their "Muze" computer. It's STILL in print, on I believe Columbia Records. You can order it and the other artists on there are cool too.

Here's all the info, track listing you need.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:31rc28oc052a


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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 13:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I believe he was talking about the movie, not the soundtrack album.

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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, I don't know if the MOVIE version from the 1980's with the color tint and rock soundtrack (which I saw here in Maryland at our art cinema house when it premiered), is still in print.

Reason being, it caught alot of flack from die hard film fans and die hard science fiction film fans of the original silent, black & white version with a full orchestra score from the 1920's, and also flack from film historians, critics, who said that it all but blasphemed the original version...which you CAN still get on DVD, I saw THAT yesterday in the Movie DVD section of Tower Records.

By the way...I have seen BOTH versions...and while I LOVE both versions...I hate to admit that I like the Original version...just a TEENY bit more..bot only a Teeny bit.

But the 80's version, I don''t know if it is still is print/available..at least here in the USA.


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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 14:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are numerous requests and petitions going on for the last few years to release 1984's Moroder version on DVD.
Most of the Metropolis fans love BOTH versions.

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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 15:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thought it might be becuse i couldnt find anywhere
thanks anyway


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Posted: 11 Apr 05, 16:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's a review of the original 1927 version with a nod to the 1984 version.

http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:32362


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Posted: 17 May 05, 09:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dantango wrote:

does anyone know where i can get the version of metropolis with love kill in the soundtrack?


Nope. Have no clue.


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Posted: 17 May 05, 12:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"...I hate to admit that I like the Original version...just a TEENY bit more..bot only a Teeny bit."

Arlene, you surprise me - of course the colour version is streets better and here's why:

The colour version is the most complete version there is. Moroder has not collected all the known original existing versions, but re-created missing scenes through animation, photography and on-screen commentary.

It is purposefully the closest version ever to Fritz Lang's original script, and by far the longest version by a mile. (Now I know that the B&W version "lasts" longer - but the colour version was speed corrected to match a rock score so runs at more frames per second than the original).

Therefore, no matter what the purists may say, they can never add this restoritive material to their version.

Also: All colourised versions come with th B&W version free. TRUE STORY time: A "purist" friend of mine slated the move without seeing it, so I invited him over one evening to view it.

Before the movie, I turned down/off the colour so the film was in B&W. I also turned down the volume - so the film was also silent. (I told him I recorded it from FilmFour - a dedicted UK Cinema station.

After he raved about this version, I then let him into my secret, and having no place to back down to, had to agree that the Moroder version was indeed the best available.

So much for cinematic snobbery!










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Posted: 17 May 05, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

"...I hate to admit that I like the Original version...just a TEENY bit more..bot only a Teeny bit."

Arlene, you surprise me - of course the colour version is streets better and here's why:

The colour version is the most complete version there is. Moroder has not collected all the known original existing versions, but re-created missing scenes through animation, photography and on-screen commentary.

It is purposefully the closest version ever to Fritz Lang's original script, and by far the longest version by a mile. (Now I know that the B&W version "lasts" longer - but the colour version was speed corrected to match a rock score so runs at more frames per second than the original).

Therefore, no matter what the purists may say, they can never add this restoritive material to their version.

Also: All colourised versions come with th B&W version free. TRUE STORY time: A "purist" friend of mine slated the move without seeing it, so I invited him over one evening to view it.

Before the movie, I turned down/off the colour so the film was in B&W. I also turned down the volume - so the film was also silent. (I told him I recorded it from FilmFour - a dedicted UK Cinema station.

After he raved about this version, I then let him into my secret, and having no place to back down to, had to agree that the Moroder version was indeed the best available.

So much for cinematic snobbery!



John I have not seen it, BUT there is a NEW DVD Director's cut of the black & white Metropolis with ALL edited scenes and outtakes RESTORED with the original symphony score. I again, have NOT seen this version....but....

...I have seen the old B&W silent version numerous times and the colorized rock soundtrack version numerous times. IF I had NEVER seen the B&W original version,,I probably would prefer the color version with the rock soundtrack, especially with Freddie being on it.

...But, if you remember the furor here in the USA when Ted Turner bought up a ton of American film classics, silents, Citizen Kane, etc...and colorized them...people went bonzo. It's like this...if you were the Director/Filmmaker of a film,whatever way it was originally done, would YOU want some one else to come in and change YOUR creative/artistic vision...EVEN if it was BETTER?

That's how some people view what happened with Metropolis. I LOVE the color rock soundtrack version...on its own. But, I somehow feel it was wrong to Director Fritz lang to tamper with his original vision/version. Just my opinion.

But...then again look how Director George Lucas...has changed and re-shot- edited, etc. the ORIGINAL Star Wars Trilogy. Some fans love it. Some fans hate it. BUT....it is NOT for them to say. Lucas is the creator/writer/Director..so HE and ONLY he has the right to alter his artistic/creative vision. I DON't Like what HE has done to the Star Wars Trilogy. But I have no right to tell him it's wrong. I do have a right to voice my opinion though. But only Lucas has the right to alter HIS artistic vision. Kinda see what I'm trying to say here. Its' a fency topic.


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Posted: 17 May 05, 13:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

on my site there's still the video fragment of Love Kills, taken from the Metropolis movie.
See Download, Video and scroll down.


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Posted: 17 May 05, 15:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Actually, I don't know if the MOVIE version from the 1980's with the color tint and rock soundtrack (which I saw here in Maryland at our art cinema house when it premiered), is still in print.

Reason being, it caught alot of flack from die hard film fans and die hard science fiction film fans of the original silent, black & white version with a full orchestra score from the 1920's, and also flack from film historians, critics, who said that it all but blasphemed the original version...which you CAN still get on DVD, I saw THAT yesterday in the Movie DVD section of Tower Records.

By the way...I have seen BOTH versions...and while I LOVE both versions...I hate to admit that I like the Original version...just a TEENY bit more..bot only a Teeny bit.

But the 80's version, I don''t know if it is still is print/available..at least here in the USA.


The main reason for the Moroder version being so hated is the fact that it's even more chopped down than the 'original'. Still, not all reels of the film have been recovered, so the (roughly) 130 minute version we have nowadays is still incomplete. Moroder's version was 81 minutes, while over 90 minutes were available at the time.

And JSS: Moroder's version was not even CLOSE to Fritz Lang's script; he ommitted valuable scenes, and the complete thing looks chaotic.


I also agree that Moroder's version was somewhat choppy and inconguent.

I have not seen it yet, BUT there is NOW...

...a NEW Complete Restored DVD Director's cut of the black & white Metropolis with ALL edited scenes and outtakes FULLY RESTORED with the original symphony score, as Director Fritz Lang had ORIGINALLY intended, before the film was edited down even in the 1920's by the film studio's Producers who thought it too long and conceptual. (but then they were money counting IDIOTS!)


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Posted: 17 May 05, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rien wrote:

on my site there's still the video fragment of Love Kills, taken from the Metropolis movie.
See Download, Video and scroll down.


Thanks, I hadn't heard "Love Kills" in a while.

BUT...who is singing the duet with Freddie in that song from the film Zabou (I checked that out while on your site)?


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Posted: 17 May 05, 20:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To answer the original question, cduniverse.com has the soundtrack CD, amazon.com the CD and movie DVD. The vinyl and CDs occasionally pop up on ebay, or you can murder your wallet at eil.com.


Jo Dare did 'Hold On' with Freddie. First song, side two, of the 'Zabou' soundtrack. Also included on the 'Solo Collection'.

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Posted: 18 May 05, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's hard to understand how people can prefer the Moroder version to the original Fritz Lang Movie. Far from being a purist I cannot think of any "classic" movie that was more ruined by someone (who is not a movie director in the first place) than Metropolis.

The original movie was amazing for it's time, really prophetic and the music was a vital part of the whole movie like in all silent movies. I do not think it was chosen randomly. In silent movies the music has an important role to emphasise and dramatise scenes and to underline mood and tempo of the storyline.

Moroder did not "speed correct" the movie "to match a rock score", he sped up the original movie to fit to his poppy second rate music. The songs he chose for the movie have really nothing to do with the "message" of the movie which is a negative utopia.

The colours are nothing but a toy, they do not add anything to the pleasure of watching the movie, in fact, they are a nuisance because they are fake like the music and fake like the whole idea to turn a great piece of art into a 80s pop product. It's like spray painting the Mona Lisa because the colours are so dark...



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Posted: 18 May 05, 14:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

I have not seen it yet, BUT there is NOW...

...a NEW Complete Restored DVD Director's cut of the black & white Metropolis with ALL edited scenes and outtakes FULLY RESTORED with the original symphony score, as Director Fritz Lang had ORIGINALLY intended, before the film was edited down even in the 1920's by the film studio's Producers who thought it too long and conceptual. (but then they were money counting IDIOTS!)


That's the version I have. It's still not 100% complete, as about 15-20 minutes of film hasn't been found yet.


How is this compared to the black & White version that I have seen that has been around for 80 years? What's included now in terms of scenes, restored footage and how is the overall quality?

Note: Metropolis is one of my favorite classic films, silent films, foreign films, science fiction films, and as I said...the only TRUE version is the original vision of Director, the great Fritz Lang, who was decades ahead of his time in forseeing the failings of a socalled futuristic "utopia" and emphasizing the importance of machines and the ultra rich over humanity. Ultimately, the film is a Universal message of man's inhumanity..and that the most important thing this world must have...is humanity.


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Posted: 15 Sep 05, 16:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here is a link to my website where you can obtain a DVD of the Moroder version. Please note: To not be in copyright infringement you must own an officially licensed copy to purchase this DVD transfer for backup/upgrading viewability.

http://metropolis1984dvd.tripod.com/

I think you will agree that a price of $10.00 (shipping included in the US) is fair especially since it contains the Moroder version of Metropolis as well as two (2) music videos inspired by the film: Queen - Radio Gaga & Madonna - Express Yourself

See my Ebay feedback of my user ID: Ghettiquette to note I am a trusted online merchant. Thank you for your consideration. Please don't take this as spam, I noted interested people and decided to make them aware of my transfer. Thank you, regards.


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Posted: 15 Sep 05, 16:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://metropolis1984dvd.tripod.com/

New copy of Giorgio Moroder Version of Metropolis on DVD! $10.00 (includes free shipping in the US)


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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Moroder's version is the most complete and although shorter then some thats only because of its faster speed. Those versions that are around 130 mins are actually some of the smallest available and have just been slowed down lots. Im pretty sure i saw a Moroder torrent some time age. Search piratebay

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 18:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I had hoped the coloring would be a bit more relevant to the plot -- such as coloring certain characters scenes etc but not the whole flick. the color version has a Warhol-esque quality but the original black and white offers greater contrast, imho like the conflict between the workers and owners. "Rotwang's Dance" is actually my favorite, being instrumental (or 'silent!') a bit more atmospheric.

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