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Posted: 12 Apr 05, 07:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, my Dad always said if you don't ask you don't get.... :)

OK, so I'm a smartass. Sue me. :)


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Posted: 12 Apr 05, 15:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Barry © wrote:

Lol, good luck ;-)


Barry, surely you've got dozens of spare copies of Houston lying around?

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Posted: 12 Apr 05, 15:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

djaef wrote:

Well, my Dad always said if you don't ask you don't get.... :)


Yeah, I think so.
I'd like to see complete Houston '77, too. I've been much interested in the NOTW tour.


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Posted: 13 Apr 05, 10:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My Melancholy Blues wrote:

djaef wrote:

Well, my Dad always said if you don't ask you don't get.... :)


Yeah, I think so.
I'd like to see complete Houston '77, too. I've been much interested in the NOTW tour.


I'm sure that there are people here who've got it. You have three versions:

1. 45 minutes (heavily cut), quality not the best
2. Complete version, bad DVD-rip, that means a few cuts, soundquality is excellent, video is bad
3. Complete version, comes from private video (VHS), sound and video the best possible

And maybe that there are copies from the one they show at Queen Conventions...don't know, really.

But all in all, it's very hard to get this show on DVD. It's ultra-rare. But you can always try...


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Posted: 13 Apr 05, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm sure there are people here who have it as well. It's just getting them to share it is the hard thing.


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Posted: 13 Apr 05, 22:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It will never be shared, period. This is how you get it:

1) Find out who has it
2) Offer something of equal rarity value

Nobody wants money for it. Rarity and dollar value are two different things.

Almost every major band has its rarities. You have to work your way up and earn something like Houston. It's what collecting is all about.



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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 00:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

It will never be shared, period. This is how you get it:

1) Find out who has it
2) Offer something of equal rarity value

Nobody wants money for it. Rarity and dollar value are two different things.

Almost every major band has its rarities. You have to work your way up and earn something like Houston. It's what collecting is all about.


I realise that Sir GH. :) This thread was purely a joke. I certainly don't expect anyone to throw me Houston 77 for nothing.

The problem is, the way I see it, getting anything that is rare enough, that even if you find someone that has it (and how do you do that?), that they will want to share it with you. I imagine that if a collector has managed to get the top quality version of Houston 77, he or she would already have gotten hold of everything else of rarity. And how do you get hold of anything rare in the first place. Is it like a series of steps? eg, trading your way to 3 or 4 low gen sought after boots, and trading them for 1 next level product and so on and so forth? Sounds like I'll be 60 before I see that Houston gig :)


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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 00:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Honestly, there's a bit of luck involved. Sometimes you just have to make the right contact, and something rare just pops up for you to grab. It's unfortunate that everything is so taboo, but it's the only way. I didn't set the rules... but if one doesn't adhere to them, they won't get anywhere.

Simply put, to give away a rarity for free after receiving it is collector's suicide. You'll have nothing to offer when the next rare thing rolls around.

So, most collectors have got rare things, but few of them are talked about. In a perfect world, if everyone just spoke up about everything, and spread everything, this system would be defunct. But the reason why the system is in place is because a few selfish people originally decided to keep things for themselves. However, some of these people paid big money for their items, and feel no obligation to spread them. Selfish as it may be, they are perfectly entitled to their choice. Or in some cases, they're not selfish... they're just plain entitled.

But - it's not always like this. In the Beatles collecting world, there are 100+ hours of studio demos. How many Queen demos are there... 100 minutes worth? Enough said.

It took a few years to learn all this, but I don't really care about the collecting "rules" nearly as much as I used to. So good luck to you.



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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 04:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Folks remember this... "The music is for all" i think that it´s time to share all the videos, demos etc the people who wants to get something with Queen material sucks. Take a look at all the bootleg DVDr, Live shows , demos etc from Other great bands like U2, Beatles , McCartney, Oasis etc. But fans like some people that we know makes impossible to unlock all this kind of rare material, why?

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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 00:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think John Stuart made some very interesting points about rare items being devalued by circulation. I understand people want to protect their investments, (for examlple if they paid big dollars for an acetate, it devalues the acetate if the song on it gets thrown around as an mp3 or whatever. The acetate itself is still rare, but who wants to buy it...).

On the other hand, of course I'd like everyone who just traded their way to rarities to just open the box and share some of this wondrous joy with others before we are all 65 and don't care to listen to Queen any more.

Another point I would make, is how, as a collector starting off, how in God's name do I know if something I have scored is rare or not? It's easy to assume I would have nothing of real value after only collecting (and just on the hub and here) for less than a year, but who knows? Maybe I stumbled over someone's concert that people didn't realise was there etc...

If anyone wants to look over my full list and see if I have anything interesting, email me at djaef @ hotmail dot com. :)



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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 00:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

djaef wrote:

Another point I would make, is how, as a collector starting off, how in God's name do I know if something I have scored is rare or not?


It comes with experience... over time you just simply learn.



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