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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 13:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is from Brian's wesbite. Sounds like they are cancelling the memorial plaque honoring Freddie at his home. What happened? I am most upset about this.

**Wed 13 April 05**
FREDDIE HERITAGE PLAQUE UNLIKELY

"Enquiring whether any truth that a plaque will be installed at Freddie's teenage home - evidently nothing to get too excited about - an idea the Heritage Foundation was floating, but unlikely to happen."


Here's the original press release where this was supposedly confirmed...

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mercury%20to%20be%20honoured%20at%20family%20home

Is there anything we Queen fans can do about this, write, express our concern...show our support...so this DOES happen for Freddie.



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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 17:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Does Anybody Care? Gee Whiz....


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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 18:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Somebody, anybody....I thought you all cared about this...:(


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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 18:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie should have it. It's nothing wrong. Stamps...a Freddie Mercury Award...a Statue...there's nothing wrong.

What about an Official Queen Museum ? Some kind of place like "Graceland" but not "Garden Lodge" I know...but I'd like it.


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Posted: 14 Apr 05, 19:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dany Mercury wrote:

Freddie should have it. It's nothing wrong. Stamps...a Freddie Mercury Award...a Statue...there's nothing wrong.

What about an Official Queen Museum ? Some kind of place like "Graceland" but not "Garden Lodge" I know...but I'd like it.


See My topic about this already...

http://queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=508783


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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 10:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think this was a 'cancellation' of the plaque, but just a case of someone in the press getting the wrong end of the stick.

The idea for a Freddie plaque was only ever mooted, never actually rubber-stamped.


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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:

I don't think this was a 'cancellation' of the plaque, but just a case of someone in the press getting the wrong end of the stick.

The idea for a Freddie plaque was only ever mooted, never actually rubber-stamped.


I think Brian jumped the gun a bit too, because he posted the original press release on his website as well, confirming the plaque for Freddie and that arrangements were already being made to invite Brian, Roger, John, even Paul Rodgers, music press and artists to the official ceremony.

Then Brian posted this "cancellation" or what have you.

I think maybe the neighbors or homeowners in the area wren't keen about all of the constant tourists that would flood through there and squawked about it, as is the case when this kind of thing is proposed for many deceased celebrities in a residential area, and so The Heritage Foundation pulled the plug on the idea.

What would be nice...would be to erect the plaque in a public, non residential area...such as maybe Ealing College where Freddfie first made music in London and studied art school and music and wound up crossing paths...with Brian & Roger at their college, or whereever Freddie played his first gig with Queen or one of his earlist bands, or one of Queen's London Recording studios...that would avoid any residents complaining about tourists traffic, etc.

I do NOT think they should give up on the idea, just move the plaque's location to another, better suited venue...



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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 11:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Arlene of course I CARE!!! He deserves this and so much more. I agree it would be best if it was in a place more within reach, and not a residential area.

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Posted: 15 Apr 05, 17:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Come on QZ rally round this. It's important but it's not gonna happen if you don't ACT like you care. Geez!


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 11:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I sent a letter about this to Brian's Soapbox.

Here's Jen's answer to me.

Dear Arlene

I don't think it's a case of 'cancellation' a such... just an idea floated about by the Heritage Foundation.

It is surprising that this should be even considered as the rules are that the person being so honoured must have been dead for at least 25 years, so this would be very premature in Feddie's case, and people would really not expect it to happen for a good long time.

Best wishes
Jen


On 15 Apr 2005, at 18:54, arlene weiss wrote:

From: Arlene R. Weiss

To: Brian May-4/15/2005

Dear Brian,

I am quite dismayed and upset that the plaque honoring Freddie by The Heritage Foundation that was to be placed at Freddie's childhood house in Feltham, Middlesex, has been cancelled.

I was thinking that maybe the cancellation of this prestigous honor was possibly due to the neighbors or homeowners in the area who may not have been to keen about all of the constant tourists that would flood through their neighborhood and squawked about it, as is the case when this kind of thing is proposed for many celebrities who have passed away, but when the monument is proposed for a residential area, and so The Heritage Foundation pulled the plug on the idea.

What would be nice...would be to erect the plaque in a public, non residential area...such as maybe Ealing College where Freddie first made music in London and studied art school and music and wound up crossing paths...with you & Roger at your college, or wherever Freddie played his first gig with Queen or one of his earliest bands, or one of Queen's London Recording studios...that would avoid any residents complaining about tourists, traffic, etc.

But PLEASE, I implore The Heritage Foundation and you Brian, to not give up on this idea.
I do NOT think The Heritage Foundation and you & Roger should give up on this esteemed and prestigous honor to Freddie, just move the plaque's location to another, better suited public area and venue...

I support the idea 100% and it is an honor most suited to Freddie's artistry, landmark contributions, and as The Heritage Foundation's President Rick Wakeman, most wonderfully noted "The foundation, felt Mercury's legendary songs, performances, legacy and valiant battle with AIDS made him deserving of the honour."

I couldn't agree more.

Thank you and Keep on Rockin' with the
Queen + Paul Rodgers Tour!
Arlene R. Weiss





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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By 2016 everyone would have forgotten who he was.


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who who was ?


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whathisface - Fred something or other - used to sing with Bad Company before joining Queen....


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The link is up top, but here it is word for word.
THIS WAS ALREADY OFFICIALLY APPOVED!!!!!!!!

"Rockers QUEEN and fans from all over the world are expected to gather at FREDDIE MERCURY's British family home to pay tribute to the band's late frontman at the unveiling of a plaque in his honour."

"The HERITAGE FOUNDATION have invited Queen stars BRIAN MAY, ROGER TAYLOR, JOHN DEACON and Mercury's replacement PAUL RODGERS to the erection of the prestigious tribute at Mercury's childhood house in Feltham, Middlesex."

"The foundation, whose president is rocker RICK WAKEMAN, felt Mercury's legendary songs, performances, legacy and valiant battle with AIDS made him deserving of the honour."

"Heritage Foundation spokesman DAVID GRAHAM says, "We felt it was right to choose the place where Freddie spent his youth. We're expecting people from all over the world of music."

08/04/2005 14:06


Also, Jen's answer, no offense sounds like a SPIN!!!! to me.

Why..well Rick Wakeman is the PRESIDENT of The Heritage Foundation and Wakeman was the person directly responsible for ALREADY APPROVING Freddie for this memorial plaque.

Now Rick Wakeman, being the PRESIDENT...OBVIOUSLY would know the RULES that make a person eligible for this plaque. If the rules are that a deceased person has to be dead 25 years...why would Wakeman even consider, much less GO AHEAD AND APPROVE FREDDIE???????????

This sounds awful fishy and a Spin Doctor answer to me.

This ALL was Already APPROVED by Rick Wakeman and The Heritage Foundation, Brian ALREADY posted THAT Press Release to that affect on Brian's website, it was released in a press anouncemant to the press....NOT that Freddie was nominated, but that Freddie was APPROVED..with no mention of eligibility requirements. Plans were already made to INVITE Brian, Roger, John, even paul Rodgers, the press, fans, other music artists.

Something about this answer from Jen does NOT hold water at all....and is awful fishy....


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From English Heritage site:

In order to be eligible for a plaque, a figure must:

Have been dead for 20 years, or have passed the centenary of their birth, whichever is the earlier
Nominated figures must also meet one or more of the following criteria:

Be considered eminent by a majority of members of their own profession or calling
Have made an important positive contribution to human welfare or happiness
Be recognisable to the well-informed passer-by
Deserve national recognition
Have resided in a locality for a significant period, in time or importance, within their life and work
In the case of foreigners or overseas visitors, candidates should:

Be of international reputation or significant standing in their own country
It should also be noted that:

Plaques can only be erected on the actual building inhabited by the nominated figure, not the site where the building once stood. However, consideration may be given in cases where reconstructed buildings present an exact facsimile frontage on the identical site
Buildings marked with plaques must be visible from the public highway
Unless a case is deemed exceptional, each figure may not be commemorated with more than two plaques nationwide
In London, suggestions will not be considered for figures already commemorated by a plaque erected by the Royal Society of Arts, the London County Council, the Greater London Council or English Heritage
Proposals will not be considered for the commemoration of individuals still living
Proposals will be considered for the commemoration of sites of special historical interest
A building shall not be marked solely because it figures in a work of fiction
Although most plaques are erected on the former residences of famous people, the erection of plaques on blocks of flats is not excluded, nor are significant places of work
Unless a case is deemed exceptional, plaques shall not be erected on educational buildings or Inns of Court
The City of London and Whitehall are ruled out for consideration under the blue plaques scheme




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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well why does the press release say Heritage Foundation President Rick Wakeman already approved it and was inviting everybody....who jumped the gun on this...or...did Wakeman "waive" some of the eligilbility requirements...which is indeed possible?

Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules.

Well. waive some of the "bleeping" rules while Freddie's memory is fresh in our hearts and minds...and his contributions are SO WORTHY, and go ahead with this plaque. If I had Wakeman's address I would write/email him.

Where did you get this info? Do they have a website? Thanks.

By the way I think we at QZ SHOULD write and pettion Wakeman and the Foundation on this.


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules.

She didn't waive the rules - there is an award for foreign nationals that is equivalent to a Knighthood, the individual is just not allowed to be called 'Sir'. Norman Schwarzkopf is also a recipient of this award.

The site you want is www.english-heritage.org.uk


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 13:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bob The Shrek wrote:

Like when Queen Elizabeth "knighted" Bob Geldof who is not a British citizen, he is from Ireland, but she "waived" the rules because sometimes a person's contributions are SO WORTHY and SIGNIFICANT...that you do waive rules.

She didn't waive the rules - there is an award for foreign nationals that is equivalent to a Knighthood, the individual is just not allowed to be called 'Sir'. Norman Schwarzkopf is also a recipient of this award.

The site you want is www.english-heritage.org.uk>


That--is The WRONG ORGANIZATION....

THIS IS THE RIGHT ORGANIZATION!!!!!

http://www.theheritagefoundation.info/


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Posted: 16 Apr 05, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I just emailed a letter to David Graham and Rick Wakeman about this and trying to facilitate this happening NOW for Freddie.

FYI...Kenny Everett, the Capitol One Radio DJ who championed Queen & Freddie, has a plaque (who died AFTER Freddie)!!!! Less than 25 years!!!!

"Kenny Everett- Plaque unveiled 16th May 1999 Teddington Studios"

Also included are Peter Sellers, John Lennon, and Buddy Holly who is from Lubbock, Texas United States....so I'm sure Freddie fits any criteria needed.

EVERYBODY!!!!There are 2 DIFFERENT Heritage Foundations.

I think BOTH Jen and Bob The Shrek mixed the wrong English Heritage Foundation up with THIS CORRECT organization which does not have all that 25 year Rule criteria stuff.

Everybody...here is the CORRECT website for the CORRECT ORGANIZATION!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.theheritagefoundation.info/

Here's the list of artists with plaques.

http://www.theheritagefoundation.info/roll_of_honour_2001_-.htm

http://www.theheritagefoundation.info/roll_of_honour_1995_-_2000.htm

David Graham's email is

david@theheritagefoundation.co.uk

Please write him and President Rick Wakeman to petition this and see that Freddie is honored as so he should be, even if "rules" need to bend a little, it's worth it...for Freddie.


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